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No! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VSS_Vintorez

the 12K issue is due to Russian gun laws. export 12K models don't have that feature. I cut my 12C down to 18.25" (form 22" -- work was done by tromix) and had it threaded for the factory chokes. Right now it has the factory IZH birdcage hider on it and it is the shit! It might have to get one of Mike's drums though! another slick feature of the LEO import 12C guns... http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showto...14&hl=nixon

i had it posted for sale on Sturm, not here.

How much for that drum? It lasted about 1.5 hrs after i posted it and sold for $100.

As an FYI -- I have an unused drum to sell for this setup. It's lost it's original packaging, but i don't even think it's been inserted.

I'm actually getting fairly interested myself. It will come down to what the final product looks like and functions like -- of course price is an issue too. I know I won't get that wraithmaker. the whole exposed design, the fact that it looks like something made with an erector set, and the apparent bulkiness of it just makes it unappealing.

Maybe it's not intentional, but to me, everything you write comes across so sarcastic in this post......

So, when do you think you'll be able to crunch out an approx. price range?

Joe Notallthathilarious -- Not only do i have no relation with Mike, but I don't think i ever posted in any of the drum related threads before you started clowing on the poor guy. For some of us, it has nothing to do with Mike, but everything to do with what a turd you are. I do find it odd though that the first thing that comes to mind when you think guys might be friends is some homosexual ass-eating. I sure wouldn't want to be on your bowling team......... Like Telly458 implied, and i've said before, what does any of it matter to you!?! Either he succedes or he doesn't.....

Juggernaut -- wow buddy, didn't you just break the first rule of Fight Club????

You're right -- we are too quick witted for you and most of us keep our heads out of our asses -- you may be over your head here!

Nowww it all makes sense -- the unrelenting attacks, the pointless comments, the appearance of Joe being personally wronged by Mike...!!! Mike, what are you doing with that picture of Joe's wife? Dude, that's just wrong -- and pointing at her like that -- what's that about!?!?! Sure she'll let you do things to her that most other farm animals would be ashamed of, but that's no reason to make a spectacle of her in front of others. Have some decency, and for god's sake, what made you thik it was ok to let that picture of your relations get on the net in the first place??? Joe, I've chang

Perhaps the next time you're out shopping for yourself you could pick up one of these..... I'm sure you'd have no problems getting donations!

I'd be happy to test it in a factory Saiga 12C for you!

IS THE THIRD TIME THE CHARM THAT HELPS YOU GET THE HINT? Have you read it.......... PS -- the other guy's post was, in my opinion, equally pointless, but it wasn't his first day, he doesn't keep coming back to stir the pot, and all 12 of his posts weren't about this guy's drum. That has been your distinction troll!

Joe Hilarious I wouldn't speculate as bother to why you're trolling his post; nor do I care why you are doing it, but that is what you're doing. You hypothesize that I'm Mike D. under a second login and then you say, I'm paranoid??? I hardly see how you could call me paranoid -- what do I have an irrational fear of here (maybe you just don't own a dictionary)? I have no agenda, no irrational fear -- I'm just calling a spade a spade. And what are you disagreeing with Mike on? You disagree that he'll get it to market? And???? So???? If he does, he does. His problem, not yo

Joe Hilarious -- I don't have a horse in this race and for now I don't really intend to buy either of these drums (definately wouldn't get the Wraithmaker because of the exposed nature of it's design), but it sure does seem like you are just trolling. Normally, I wouldn't even make a comment like this; however, what you're doing is just so blatant that I couldn't bight my tongue. Let the guy do his thing. Either he'll come through or he won't -- you aren't an invester so it ain't your problem!!!

EXCELLENT POST and it cracked me up to boot!

The living revocable trust is a pretty easy route that several people I know have taken. My local LEO is no problem, but theirs wouldn't sign off on suppressors because he has visions of assasinations dancing through his head. so, "F" him -- they setup a trust and he and his signature can piss off! it sure would be nice if these LEOs would figure out that the question isn't, "do you you like these items or think they're a good idea" -- it's, "are these legal in your jurisdiction" and maybe, "is this guy a known shithead."

If you break it up I'd be interested in the SG-1 season 1 set. LMK.

can you make it fit for the saiga 12c? idea of delivered price?

It will definately fit!

That underfolder stock is sort of uncomfortable to start with -- not sure the recoil off an S12 would do anything but exacerbate that. If you decide to try it, I would recommend one of the AK grenade launcher recoil boots. They will fit over a standard stock or slide into the "U" of an underfolder stock. Post some pics if you do it (of the gun and your bruised shoulder -- )