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so I have heard a few good things about this break especially, my question is how heavy is it? My gun is already on the long side (19 incher, don't know how comfortable I am hacking it down) but if it works well and does not make the gun handle weird (or crazy front heavy), the price is certainly not an issue. The other one I have heard good things about is the JT engineering break, if anyone has comments there?

So I finally got out of prison school for the summer and had promised myself if I kept my gpa high enough I would finish up my saiga build. Currently I have a plain old saiga converted by CGW, a tri-rail, front grip and an eotech (ill upload a pic when I have access to a computer with one on it already). The two things left that I want to buy are a different stock and a break. Now, for the stock I am looking at getting a vltor collapsible one (not sure from who yet, looks like CSS is out of the tube adapter I need and I don't really want to split up the order...) but as for the break, I hav

just fitted mine, thanks for the extra pics/vids that were not in the manual, but I gotta say I ended up having to remove much more than a bit of "dust" worth of material, but I only need 1 saiga 12, and this one locks up tight now! can't wait to take it out to the range tomorrow.

props for doing this, as 1337 is not taken thats what I will go with! 1337

So, is it safe to say based on the number of views and no replies that thats basically a fluke I plan to buy a bp02 tomorrow if thats the case, but if its gonna be that bad, ill save the 50 bucks. I cant seem to find the other example I was going to post that was on another site...

there were several... lemmie see real fast... Here is one such thread.

So, after a good amount of consideration I am pretty sure this is what I want to go with, however I recall reading a few cases on these forums where the eotech was causing FTF in peoples saiga 12's, the last thing I want to do is drop that much cash, and wind up with a dud. So I figured I would ask you guys if you run a setup like what I want, and if you had any issues. -Niff

HA HA HA, I actually have a string of these I got at a gun show a few years back, my mom refused to let me put them on the old tree... For those with less offended loved ones, they actually look pretty nice.

As I am still deciding on an optice I have been looking at a vortex sparc, how does your strikefire hold up to the 12 gauge's recoil?

Spooky... I was just going to make a similar topic. My past research has led me to consider a Bushnell Holosight, as they are not apparently knockoffs, just less durable eotechs (made on the same machines apparently). I am quite interested to hear the results of this thread, but it will probably come down to a "you get what you pay for" although I do hope there is an acceptable alternative. Otherwise I will probably keep looking for a red dot that has a excellent warranty (2 years on something that I pay that much for seems a bit low)

Cadiz Gun Works was doing a christmas special, 500 bucks, and you get it by the 24th, I don't know if thats still on, but its worth checking on it...

So this stuff cycles fine in saigas? I have been looking for some cheap "big bullet" ammo for when I get my saiga, and this fits the bill for sure, but I don't want 100 rounds of something that won't work... And since its 2.75, this fits in a MD drum right?

So I have just been informed that I have till tomorrow to use some ebay bucks I got. Anyone know of some good sellers for optics mounts like the bp-02 that I could buy and not have it break after 2 shots? Or should I find something else to spend the dough on.

The burris fast fire does look quite good, although I have yet to decide, my father was showing em some of his optics, I believe the brand was osprey, they looked fairly rugged, and the saved money would be nice, fees ate up a bit more of my budget than i would have hoped (shipping to tom, shipping to me, FFL transfer etc) So does anyone here have an osprey? They claim they are rated for up to a 50BMG round, so I would imagine they should hold a zero with that BP02 rail system.

wahhhhhaaa so much money gone But ill be damned if I am not excited, all orders placed and hopefully shipped to Tom soon. When do I learn the secret handshake?

good to hear... And I actually have switched my plans to CSS as the link for the saiga on gilberts 404'ed >.>, ordering tomorrow mornin, getting a intrafuse tri-rai, the S12, and this here vert gripunless there is something else i should get thats just a "must have"

Well thanks for all the advice for mounts all, looks like the BP-02 will work just fine. My question is I have heard there are more than one version, a 2 support and 3 support one, how do I tell the difference? (I assume supports are the things below the rail, but I figured I would ask) Also, for those who had CGW convert and optimize: (like with the xmas special) I am sure it should cycle anything I throw at it, but what is the cheapest stuff I try? One person suggested #6 shot federal, are there rounds I should down right AVOID, I looked through a few threads, but I never saw a general

That is MUCH cheaper, thanks. Also: after more google, it appears a site called "goodoptics" also has then for 43 bucks, but I would need to see how legitimate they are. Thats what I finally came up with, and with that christmas special, 500 bucks was something I could afford (once my ebay auction ends lol) and after seeing CGW's full auto saiga vids, can't wait to see mine run that well.

Wanna sell it then? I might just get the extended rail considering how expensive this mount looks like its going to be...

Thanks man, thats exactaly what I was looking for, cant believe it was on the side most pictures dont use Looks like just what I need/want! Good info on the ammo too. EDIT: Just to be sure, Olag = This site?

True that! Thank goodness this gun should eat any type of ammo after I get it back so I can AFFORD to go shooting, and shoot more than 40-50 rounds a range trip, cant say the same about my Garand... I have seen a few pics on the forums that would indicate this, but i keep looking at google, and dont see any pics that indicate how.., Any chance you care to explain in more detail? Or just show me a pic that show how to install one. Hell, ill take anything.

Dude, you live in New Mexico? You really should talk to Mike at Lone Star Arms, (also in NM). I'd highly recommend that you do some reading in his biz section, (he's a business member of this forum), and possibly call/email him also before you decide exactly how you want to set your S-12 up. He does amazing, (and in some ways unique), work. Hell, if I lived in NM I'd probably be bugging Mike every other weekend to go shoot his full-auto S-12 hehehe I have actually chatted with him about having him do his basic conversion job, but that ended up being a bit more tan I could afford.

*bump* i guess. Also still looking for ways to mount said optics.

Well after looking around and doing some thinking, I am going to go with having CGW do the conversion as his christmas special. I do think it would be fun to do myself, but I want this to be a christmas gift for myself, and I just dont see me being able to make enough trips to the range and mess around with polishing, etc making sure it can cycle cheap wally world birdshot/buck. This still leaves me open to looking for a holo sight on my gun, as alot of the cheaper ones I have looked at probably will not hold up to a 12 gauge round... So to rephase: I dont think I need an amazing nice