bruce soderholm

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/86877-sgm-10rd/

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Be very carful with that situation with your gun, my friend vepr 12 had the same problem as in your pics. When loading a loaded mag into the gun, slight rocking of the mag will cause the back of the brass to hit the LRBHO lever and releasing the bolt and 50% of the time it will chamber a round as the mag locks into the gun. Or it will travel across the top of the shell almost cutting threw the pastic shell.

This same problem happens with the sgm vepr12 mags in a vepr 12. SGM stance with the vepr 12 is the gun is at fault. Even after they are told any all factory mags works and even modified agp's work. So the pattern is the same with SGM, they have a poor knock off mag and blame the firearms ,not the mag that's at fault. And what is funny is they are proud of their design as it sits in the gun at the wrong angle and too low. I'am 100% sure that SGM mags in my friends and mine vepr12's makes the guns less reliable. With sgm blaming Legion that you "changed" something when you conveted the firearm

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It's not the LRBHO lever, it's that the sgm mags follower sits lower it the mag because of the large plastic feed lips. Insert your empty factory mag on a closed bolt and rack the bolt back and let the bolt stay back from the LRBHO and then remove the mag. Now insert a SGM and you will see that the LRBHO lever will not be touching the SGM follower. Even after bending my friends lever down it still does not touch the sgm follower when this test is done. If you experience this, you should send it in for a replacement. The SGM mags work with LRBHO. My sgm's work the lrbho 100%. The Factory ma

It's not the LRBHO lever, it's that the sgm mags follower sits lower it the mag because of the large plastic feed lips. Insert your empty factory mag on a closed bolt and rack the bolt back and let the bolt stay back from the LRBHO and then remove the mag. Now insert a SGM and you will see that the LRBHO lever will not be touching the SGM follower. Even after bending my friends lever down it still does not touch the sgm follower when this test is done.

It is not the gun as sgm mags work 100% with no ftf or fte with low brass. It is the mags pinching the high brass. SGM blaming the gun is a lame excuse without looking at the mags.

I tried this a month ago and I was told it was my gun and was brushed off by the guy who I talk too. He was not concerned about my problem mags only blamed the gun and said this will happen with any mag but the 5rd mag that came with it. And new sgm's will do the same thing because its my gun. Which was not the case at the time when I talked to SGM. So I had to take it to the public fourms for all to see. I sent SGM a email asking for return shipping to be paid for and a return number if needed.

How did you luck out? You have not tried high brass yet and the LRBHO does not work because the SGM mag follower sit's lower then the factory mag. My friends vepr did this also, you need to remove the LRBHO lever and bend it down some. My SGM mags feed low brass 100% no ftf.

Is SGM paying for return shipping? I feel that I should not have to pay for return shipping on 10 defective mags. Especially after SGM blamed the gun and dropping just under $400 on these mags. These cannot be the only 10 mags like this.

Went out today with mine and a friends vepr 12's. We had 3 5rd molot, 1 8rd molot, 1 izhmash 8rd, 1 modded AGP, and my 10 sgm's. All mags worked in both veprs but the SGM's with high brass only. after shooting we took a look at the mags and this is what we found. The SGM mags are collapsing in the middle at the top 5rd section of the mag and pinching the high brass. The mag do not do this with low brass as the brass is not as long. This pinching of the brass is what causes the rounds to nose dive as this is the pivot point in the mag. with no spring or follower in the mag high brass shell