aurbis 1 Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 I am a complete novice when it comes to gun conversions and metalworking. I was hoping someone in the Tampa Bay area (or up to 2 hours away) was willing to help me convert my Saiga 7.62 to an AK style rifle. I don't have many tools, or even the right parts yet; I guess I need the advice of someone who has experience and the right tools in this type of thing. Let me know if you can help, we can work out the details. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 Have you read the Tech Section under the Guestbook area of the forum? LOTS of conversion info there for you, and you will see that it is not all that difficult if you wish to try it on your own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aurbis 1 Posted December 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 Have you read the Tech Section under the Guestbook area of the forum? LOTS of conversion info there for you, and you will see that it is not all that difficult if you wish to try it on your own. I read through many guides, seems to be more than I am able to do. I know I will screw it up if left to myself. I'd rather have another do it, and myself either watch or do some actual hands-on. But on the other hand, I do not want to send it to a shop and run up a large bill. I can spare some cash to a helpful fellow, and I would much prefer that they walk me through step-bt-step. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 Have you read the Tech Section under the Guestbook area of the forum? LOTS of conversion info there for you, and you will see that it is not all that difficult if you wish to try it on your own. I read through many guides, seems to be more than I am able to do. I know I will screw it up if left to myself. I'd rather have another do it, and myself either watch or do some actual hands-on. But on the other hand, I do not want to send it to a shop and run up a large bill. I can spare some cash to a helpful fellow, and I would much prefer that they walk me through step-by-step. Believe there are a number of forum members in Florida. Hopefully one of them will see your post and be able to give a helping hand then. Good luck! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 A Tromix basic conversion is, I believe, only about $100 more than the retail cost of all the parts. Small price for perfection, imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
87vert 4 Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 I am a complete novice when it comes to gun conversions and metalworking. I was hoping someone in the Tampa Bay area (or up to 2 hours away) was willing to help me convert my Saiga 7.62 to an AK style rifle. I don't have many tools, or even the right parts yet; I guess I need the advice of someone who has experience and the right tools in this type of thing. Let me know if you can help, we can work out the details. Thanks in advance! you only need a drill and some type of rotary tool, a hammer would also help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aurbis 1 Posted December 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 (edited) A Tromix basic conversion is, I believe, only about $100 more than the retail cost of all the parts. Small price for perfection, imo. How much is that? 18.95 for Tapco SAW PG 34.99 for G2 Single Hook TG 10.79 for retaining plate (optional?) 50-something for a buttstock 6.99 PG screw and bushing Total = ~$122 + ~$20 shipping = $142 So if I can send my Saiga to a professional shop to become converted for less than $250 total, I would do it. Tromix basic conversion is $350. Parts are less than $150. Where did that extra $200 go? Plus, I would be without my rifle for several days., not to mention the shipping both ways... Edited December 25, 2006 by hellgrün-K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 (edited) Well, here's a "complete" price comparison for you. The basic standard folding stock/pistol grip conversion parts are as follows: ACE internal receiver block $35 ACE Buttstock $65 ACE Folding Mechanism $60 Freight $8 Tapco Pistol grip $25 Tapco G2 FCG $45 Trig/Hamr retaining spring $4 Freight $8 Total Parts Cost $250 With a Tromix conversion, all the extra holes are welded up and blended out. There is no "adapter" used to mount the stock, rather a factory receiver back plate is welded in, and there are no screws and nuts holding the trigger guard in place. The barrel is cut down and gas ports resized, if required, and the mag well is adjusted for 8rd mags if required. Any Russian assembly screwups are repaired and the gun is sand blasted and bake-on moly resin applied. I think you'll find that's a pretty good value for a 100 bucks *EDITED TO ADD: Dude I'm not trying to sell you a gun, but for a guy with no skills or tools I think we are a valid way to go. Edited December 25, 2006 by BobAsh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 edit BobAsh's bit about opening up the magwell for the 8rd mags, he's got the S-12 on his brain for that one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 LOL Joe I didn't see that...actually I just cut & pasted the whole thing from one of Tony's posts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 LOL Joe I didn't see that...actually I just cut & pasted the whole thing from one of Tony's posts. fair enough...just trying to clarify....so you guys could ship me a converted S-12 for christmas since i was a good boy...right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aurbis 1 Posted December 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 Thanks BobAsh, but no thanks. I do want to convert a Saiga, eventually, but I am not ready yet. I want this first one to go smoothly but also be a hands-on learning experience. The best way for this is to find a friendly Floridian that can show me the ropes.... It won't take more than a half-day and will also save me money. But I do applaud your salesmanship. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted December 26, 2006 Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 Fair enough, bro. I'm sure some money can be saved, plus the fun of doing yourself. As far as salesmanship goes, well, I got a laugh out of that...although I "officially" work for Tromix, it's mainly as a consultant. I posted the above because I thought it was good advise. Since the backlog on conversions is now about 4 months, I dont think Tony is hurting for work. Best of luck, but in case it doesn't go as well as you hope, we fix botched conversions every week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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