millsusaf 0 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 (edited) After finding some quality ammo that patterns well, I have decided to use my S-20 in a home defense role. I currently have one 2 3/4" 5 round mag and one 3" 5 round mag. I would like to get a few more of each 5 rounders and even a few 9-10 rounders. I have seen the Franken mags and that is a possibility however I am worried about the durability of them. Are there any sources for the 5/9-10 round mags? Is anyone looking at manufacturing a 10 round S-20 mag? Thanks On a side note, what kind of slugs are best to shoot through the S-20's smooth barrel? Thanks Edited October 22, 2007 by millsusaf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rebelyell76t 0 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 (edited) After finding some quality ammo that patterns well, I have decided to use my S-20 in a home defense role. I currently have one 2 3/4" 5 round mag and one 3" 5 round mag. I would like to get a few more of each 5 rounders and even a few 9-10 rounders. I have seen the Franken mags and that is a possibility however I am worried about the durability of them. Are there any sources for the 5/9-10 round mags? Is anyone looking at manufacturing a 10 round S-20 mag? Thanks On a side note, what kind of slugs are best to shoot through the S-20's smooth barrel? Thanks As for the availibility of the mags... I'm having a hard time finding the 2 3/4 ones myself. I've found that the remington sluggers, the peters high velocity and the winchester slugs all fly exactly the same out of mine. Good and cheap too. Edited October 22, 2007 by rebelyell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 I wouldn't worry about the durability if I made them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore 3 Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 On a side note, what kind of slugs are best to shoot through the S-20's smooth barrel? Care to share the type of ammo your S20 is patterning well with? As for slugs, I'd say any of them will do. They'll all hit like a sledgehammer, and for HD distances, I doubt that accuracy will be very different. For hunting, you need to buy several types and test in your own shotgun. Individual firearms are well known to prefer different ammo types. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
millsusaf 0 Posted October 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Federal Premium 3" #2 Buck Buckshot 18 pellets; 5 rds Federal Premium 2 3/4" #3 Buck Buckshot 20 pellets; 5 rds Winchester Super-X 2 3/4" #3 Buckshot with Buffered; 20 Pellets; 5 rds. From 12-15' I got about a 6-8" spread out of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Bob 0 Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I wouldn't worry about the durability if I made them. (I'm basically new to the shotgun side of the forum, so this is probably a really stupid question, but has anyone looked at .303 Bren mags to see if they could be modified to handle 20 gauge rounds? Just 'guess-timating,' but length & width might be about right, although I imagine they have too much curve to 'em to make high capacity mags. I did a search here under "Bren" and didn't find a thing. Thanks in advance! ;>) bren.bmp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore 3 Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 What Cobra Said. In the role of HD, your mags will spend 99% of thier life just sitting there, .99999% of the time they'll be used in practice and the rest of the time they'll actually defend your home. As for springs, I personally don't know, but I'd look into 308 rifle mag springs? And for HD distances you can't buy a slug that is too poor performing to use. BadBob, why mess with another mag that may not give you reliability when you can buy 10 rounders (England)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Bob 0 Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 BadBob, why mess with another mag that may not give you reliability when you can buy 10 rounders (England)? As I mentioned, I'm new to the shotgun side of the forum. Based on what I've read here (http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=21643, for example), I didn't even know 10-rd mags for the 20 gauge existed. The only 20 gauge Saiga mags I had ever seen for sale are the 5-rd mags, and folks seem to want as much for one of those as they want for the 10-rd 12 gauge mags (which means that welding a pair together costs 'an arm AND a leg' ;>). Based on your post, I went looking online, and found references to $25 5-rd mags ("out of stock") and $96 10-rd mags (also "out of stock"). Nice to learn something new, but $96 a pop for plastic 20 gauge mags (even if they were available) kind of 'jumps the shark,' as far as I'm concerned. I asked about Bren mags, because with Bren mags going for $6 (not $96) each, I figured experimenting would be cheap, and that someone might have done that by now (apparently not). I don't own a Saiga shotgun yet (it will be my next purchase) - I guess I'll pay the extra for a 12, even though I prefer 20s. Thanks! ;>) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaNoobie 66 Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 BadBob, why mess with another mag that may not give you reliability when you can buy 10 rounders (England)? As I mentioned, I'm new to the shotgun side of the forum. Based on what I've read here (http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=21643, for example), I didn't even know 10-rd mags for the 20 gauge existed. The only 20 gauge Saiga mags I had ever seen for sale are the 5-rd mags, and folks seem to want as much for one of those as they want for the 10-rd 12 gauge mags (which means that welding a pair together costs 'an arm AND a leg' ;>). Based on your post, I went looking online, and found references to $25 5-rd mags ("out of stock") and $96 10-rd mags (also "out of stock"). Nice to learn something new, but $96 a pop for plastic 20 gauge mags (even if they were available) kind of 'jumps the shark,' as far as I'm concerned. I asked about Bren mags, because with Bren mags going for $6 (not $96) each, I figured experimenting would be cheap, and that someone might have done that by now (apparently not). I don't own a Saiga shotgun yet (it will be my next purchase) - I guess I'll pay the extra for a 12, even though I prefer 20s. Thanks! ;>) Exactly where I was. $40 10rd s-12 mags, $180 s-12 20rd drum. Ammo prices being equal... 12 just seemed like the right way to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cdnbacon 0 Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Maybe a silly excuse to buy another gun but here goes......if you like the 20, buy another one for a spare since they are still available and at a reasonable price, and now you have a total of 4 factory 5 round mags to play with. I have a 20 and a 12 and actually like the 20 a little more since it is quicker to recover from recoil and the loaded mags seat easier with the bolt closed than the 12 ga...just a thought Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Bob 0 Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Maybe a silly excuse to buy another gun but here goes......if you like the 20, buy another one for a spare since they are still available and at a reasonable price, and now you have a total of 4 factory 5 round mags to play with. I have a 20 and a 12 and actually like the 20 a little more since it is quicker to recover from recoil and the loaded mags seat easier with the bolt closed than the 12 ga...just a thought Thanks! It's worth considering, with S-20s going for $300 ($290 w/ discount) at Classic Arms, vs. $450+++ for S-12s, just about anywhere you can find one... ;>) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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