kmoore 3 Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 Want to put this at the top of my post. Always practice/dry fire with a gun/mags that have been triple checked to be empty. shooter2 wrote: No problem when time isn't an issue, but doing it under pressure is something else entirely. Welcome to the world of competitive action shooting:) Way to work on that at home is with a timer. Get yourself a competition timer with the ability to do PAR times. Most/All can do this. Run ~120 and more $$. Then, set times up for diff exercises. IE. Starting with gun in shooting position, do a reload sholder and (DRY) fire at a spot on the wall. You start at the beep and try to beat the second beep. Move up in complexity from there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shooter2 5 Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 kmoore: It should be noted that locking in the Saiga-12 mags is only difficult when they are LOADED, as the top round smashes against the closed bolt and is prevented from moving downward by the rest of the cartridge stack. So doing reloading drills with empty mags wouldn't be the same. Action Trainers or other dummy rounds are ideal for this purpose! My need is to be able to reload quickly and smoothly under the adrenaline dump of a defense situation, without looking at the weapon. Practice will get me halfway there, but the design of the gun itself still makes the process more difficult than it should be. I think a mag guide like Stimp's would take care of the other part of the equation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stimpsonjcat 0 Posted November 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 Thanks for the props guys. I have a small drawing I made of the device with dimensions, I'll try to clean it up and post a pic tonight. If you've got the metal, a hacksaw, some files, and a drill press...you should be able to make this piece. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stimpsonjcat 0 Posted November 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 As promised: I might go a little taller on the 0.8" measurement, just make sure you have at least 0.8" to the point where you start to round off. Also, as there may be some variance in the distance from the receiver to the hole in the mag catch (mine was loose on one side and fit well on the other) you might want to leave the 0.1" measurement a little long and file to fit. Let me know how it goes if anyone tries to make one up please. Oh, I mentioned it before, but my stimpcatch is 1/4" thickness. Someone ought to try some delrin or aluminum maybe, I am just used to working with mild steel and have lots of scrap to work with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cesiumsponge 0 Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Interesting! I have some delrin round stock and some UHMWPE, no 1/4" metal stock. I'm sure I could find some scrap material and give it a try this weekend and see if I can make it work! Thanks for the dimensional drawing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zipperhead 0 Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 Shouldn't this thread be a sticky at the top? Or part of the FAQ or modifications area? I mean, easier/simpler loading of mags even when fumble-fingered under stress...pretty important mod if you ask me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore 3 Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 It should be noted that locking in the Saiga-12 mags is only difficult when they are LOADED, as the top round smashes against the closed bolt and is prevented from moving downward by the rest of the cartridge stack. So doing reloading drills with empty mags wouldn't be the same. Action Trainers or other dummy rounds are ideal for this purpose!This is true if you load on a closed bolt. Not a lot of difference loading on open bolt.If loading on a closed bolt, you could still use live rounds in the mag. without looking at the weapon If you can do it reliably, more power to you. When I'm reloading I need more shells fast so that's where my eyes go. Either way, I look foward to getting reports back from the testers of the Stimpcatch®. BTW, do I need any permissions to use the name of your invention .... lolol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ForGreatJustice 1 Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Congratulations on the Stimpcatch! I'll try it as soon as I get a chance! Naturally, we all respect your IP. So basically, you just rock and lock now, like a regular AK? Or is there still a little subtlety to the movement? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stimpsonjcat 0 Posted November 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 I have sent the drawing to a machinist friend of mine. He is optimistic we may be able to get some of these cut out on CNC. I am still planning to get a few betas done, but the house project is chewing up all my spare time...your patience is appreciated guys. What would you guys consider a fair price for these? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ForGreatJustice 1 Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 For a piece of metal, I'd pay up to $10. If you threw in the proper 1/8 drill shank cut to length, and the part was heat-treated with a black finish, I'd pay up to $15. Shipping would be negligible of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore 3 Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 (edited) stimpsonjcat, 10 bucks seems pretty reasonable. More than that and folks would likely make their own. Except for folks who don't want to. Charge them $50!!! lololol How does this affect the mag release. Does it block access from one side? Edted foor spilling Edited December 1, 2004 by kmoore Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swiftvision 0 Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 How is this installed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shooter2 5 Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 Stimp: For a mag guide (aluminum or polymer, matters not to me) and replacement pin, $15 including shipping sounds reasonable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ForGreatJustice 1 Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Anyone make one yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jesusplayedwithwood 0 Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Well, got my Saiga 12 and played with dummy rounds in the mag and I see what everyone means about difficulty in loading full mags with the bolt forward. This device seems to be an amazingly simple (and thus genius) fix to the problem. Stimp, you have Russian blood in you? I ask because it is somethig soo simple that few American engineers would ever consider the concept. If it works good, I want. Sign me up! and no, I'm not Russian, I just respect simple, functional things like their firearms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stimpsonjcat 0 Posted December 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Scot and Irish! I will get the prototypes done after the first of the year guys, the house is nearing completion! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ForGreatJustice 1 Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 God Bless the Celts! I used to dabble in blacksmithing myself. HAven't gotten around to making the stimp catch just yet though... One thing about closed bolt loading...you can only keep 7 rounds in the mag it seems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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