russianblood 0 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I load 444 Marlin brass as .410 shotshells for my No1Mk3 .410 Enfield. Has anybody here tried them in a Saiga using the 2 1/2" magazine? I'm trying to find a way to shoot my S-410 cheaper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 They fit the magazine, but not the barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russianblood 0 Posted November 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 They fit the magazine, but not the barrel. Good to know. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russianblood 0 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 They fit the magazine, but not the barrel. I just tried some 444 Marlin shot shells in my Saiga and they fit the chamber just fine. I'm waiting for my 2 1/2" magazines to show up to give them a proper range test. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Let us know how it works out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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russianblood 0 Posted November 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 For reference, the base diameter of factory .410's is 0.469", and the rim diameter is 0.524". .444 Marlin cases are straight walled and can be used as .410 brass without the need for fireforming, but have the penalty of a 2.162" case length. The base diameter of the .444 Marlin is 0.469". The rim diameter is smaller with the .444 Marlin - 0.514" ( http://www.endtimesreport.com/410reloading.html ) So it seems as long as they extract, which my manually cycled test round did, then they should work well. I have a few shot and several buck shot loaded 444 Marlin cases ready to go. I had made them up for my No1MkIII* Enfield .410. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Good luck and please let us know your results. How are you 'sealing' the open end? Are you roll crimping them? I have a bunch of Barnaul steel hulls I've been wanting to reload sometime. Maybe they would be similar? They are Berdan primed though...don't know if I can find those primers anywhere or whether another kind would work. Maybe you should also post this topic in the reloading forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russianblood 0 Posted November 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 (edited) Good luck and please let us know your results. How are you 'sealing' the open end? Are you roll crimping them? I have a bunch of Barnaul steel hulls I've been wanting to reload sometime. Maybe they would be similar? They are Berdan primed though...don't know if I can find those primers anywhere or whether another kind would work.Maybe you should also post this topic in the reloading forum. I seal them with an overshot card held in place with Elmer's Glue. I do have 444 Marlin reloading dies so I could roll crimp them as well. I didn't need to with my single shot bolt action Enfield but I may want to with my semi auto Saiga. As for reloading Barnaul shells, even if you got the spent primer out, there is no US source for Berdan primers. Edited November 21, 2008 by russianblood Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russianblood 0 Posted November 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 My 63mm magazine arrived today and I'll be testing out the 444 Marlin brass reloads tomorrow. They are a little shorter than plastic 2 1/2" shells so I'm hoping they feed OK. One miss feed and it will knock the card wad right out of the brass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russianblood 0 Posted November 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 It didn't work. The diameter of the rim is too small and they failed to extract. They fit the chamber well though. Next I'll have to try reformed 303 British brass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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