Falcon78 0 Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Hello all, So I understand that most of our Saiga 223s have a twist of 1:9, which makes 75 and 77 grain rounds less advisable for distances over 100 yds. for twists slower than 1:7. I know 55 grain rounds are fine, my question is how do the 62 rounds stack up against the 69ers, which I have heard is the recommended upper limit for 1:9 barrels? Thanks for your input. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon78 0 Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) This page ( http://www.6mmbr.com/223Rem.html ) says up to 73gr, but I would like to hear everyone's range experiences/opinions as well. Also, I would like to know which loading delivers better accuracy and overall performance for you - .223 or 5.56? Edited March 20, 2009 by Falcon78 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
m1key 7 Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 This page ( http://www.6mmbr.com/223Rem.html ) says up to 73gr, but I would like to hear everyone's range experiences/opinions as well. Also, I would like to know which loading delivers better accuracy and overall performance for you - .223 or 5.56? I don't shoot brass-cased ammo in my Saiga. I bought it to shoot the cheaper steel stuff. Brown Bear 62 HP seems to shoot the best out of my 16 incher with Wolf 75 gr HP a reasonable second. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon78 0 Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) 223 or 556? Any other opinions are welcome Edited March 20, 2009 by Falcon78 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WardenWolf 6 Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 68 grain is the maximum ideal weight for a 1:9 twist rate barrel in .223 or 5.56. Accuracy starts to drop off after 68 grain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon78 0 Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 68 grain is the maximum ideal weight for a 1:9 twist rate barrel in .223 or 5.56. Accuracy starts to drop off after 68 grain. A local store has 69gr, would that extra grain make a difference? And what's your take on how the 68 grain rounds compare to the 62s? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulry 50 Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 (edited) I was down at Sportsmans Guide (Clearance Store in Warehouse) and bought 200 rounds of the 75 gr Wolf for $5.99 each. I sure hope the .223's do ok with it. But, I don't think I would get to hung up on this Falcon. All my .223 Saiga's shoot so well, the AK is better suited to closer ranges and it may not be an issue. It ain't going to key hole at 75 to 90 yards! A key hole shot would hurt - to the head! Edited March 21, 2009 by Fluid Power Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Either should work fine. Different rifles, even with the same twist will show a preference for one over the other. Try 'em both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulry 50 Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 I should have added that today, Sportsmans Guide has Wolf 75gr .223 in stock at $5.99 each Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SimpleIsGood229 3 Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 68 grain is the maximum ideal weight for a 1:9 twist rate barrel in .223 or 5.56. Accuracy starts to drop off after 68 grain. A local store has 69gr, would that extra grain make a difference? And what's your take on how the 68 grain rounds compare to the 62s? I doubt it. The important thing is bullet length, not weight. Weight is just an easy way of comparing since the bullet weight is always listed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon78 0 Posted March 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Right. So in addition to weight, which load seems to give you better performance, .223 or 5.56? And has anyone have any long-distance range results? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
m1key 7 Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 (edited) Right. So in addition to weight, which load seems to give you better performance, .223 or 5.56? And has anyone have any long-distance range results? Thanks. Saigas have 5.56 compatible chambers so the 223/5.56 question is kinda irrelevant, IMO. Federal Match 69 grain would probably be one of the most accurate (and expensive) factory loads. Also, a longer barrel (21 inch) will stabilize the heavier bullet better (than a 16 inch) and be more accurate. Edited March 21, 2009 by m1key Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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