ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 OK... As I understand it, my S12 with a threaded barrel (muzzle attachment aka Thread Protector) counts as foreign part #14 on the 922r list. Cool. So, does adding a US made attachment, e.g. muzzle brake, flash suppressor or choke, count as a 922r compliance part? ...................................... Please forgive me if this has been covered a thousand times, I can't seem to find a definitive answer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted March 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 2nd question... Does this forearm count as a compliance part? http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/se...il?sfs=69540197 It is made in the US, it is a forearm, other US made forearms are compliance parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 OK...As I understand it, my S12 with a threaded barrel (muzzle attachment aka Thread Protector) counts as foreign part #14 on the 922r list. Cool. So, does adding a US made attachment, e.g. muzzle brake, flash suppressor or choke, count as a 922r compliance part? ...................................... Please forgive me if this has been covered a thousand times, I can't seem to find a definitive answer. IMHO the Thread Protector counts as the 14th part. If you replace it with a US made part, of some type you have 3 more to go. Yes, I also believe that the Forearm is a part that counts toward 922® compliance. I say believe because I am not a lawyer and can not give you legal advice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 2nd question... Does this forearm count as a compliance part? http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/se...il?sfs=69540197 It is made in the US, it is a forearm, other US made forearms are compliance parts. Yes. Why wouldn't it? Just like you said; "It is made in the US, it is a forearm, other US made forearms are compliance parts." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 2nd question... Does this forearm count as a compliance part? http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/se...il?sfs=69540197 It is made in the US, it is a forearm, other US made forearms are compliance parts. Yes it counts as 1. Greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted March 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 2nd question... Does this forearm count as a compliance part? http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/se...il?sfs=69540197 It is made in the US, it is a forearm, other US made forearms are compliance parts. Yes. Why wouldn't it? Just like you said; "It is made in the US, it is a forearm, other US made forearms are compliance parts." Why wouldn't it?I just wasn't sure, many items are listed specifically as 922r compliance parts in their description, and some such as this aren't. Thank you for your replies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 It can be quite problematic to directly interpret the law for someone else. I know that on my gun the hand guard (Forearm) counts. On other people's, I "believe" it does... The reason for ChileRelleno confusion is obvious, many parts are marked "US Made" that do not count for 922® compliance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted March 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 (edited) Correct. Part of my ....confusion.... ...... is how some parts may be interpreted by local/state/federal LEOs, i.e. they decide that the part I question constitutes a rail system and is not a forearm per se, and therefore not a compliance part under 922r. Understand, I try to look at things from multiple angles, and the views/interpretations of many LEOs can vary widely. Edited March 29, 2009 by ChileRelleno Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Well it would not really matter if it were a "Rail System" or a forearm would it? It really does not matter how many US Parts you have, what matters is that you have less then 10 Foreign parts. So, you are confused. HTH! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 2nd question... Does this forearm count as a compliance part? http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/se...il?sfs=69540197 It is made in the US, it is a forearm, other US made forearms are compliance parts. Yes. Why wouldn't it? Just like you said; "It is made in the US, it is a forearm, other US made forearms are compliance parts." Why wouldn't it?I just wasn't sure, many items are listed specifically as 922r compliance parts in their description, and some such as this aren't. Thank you for your replies. Forearms/handguards are specifically listed in 922r. I guess I can see where you're coming from, but if it's coming down to you worrying about it, you can always opt for a non-railed handguard of some kind. I've got a Chaos rail on my S12. Personally, I don't see how any authority could say it's not a "handguard/forearm" just because it's a rail. Maybe that's just me though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 ...I've got a Chaos rail on my S12. Personally, I don't see how any authority could say it's not a "handguard/forearm" just because it's a rail. Maybe that's just me though. It appears that some are missing the point here, it does not matter what "they" call it. If the OEM foreign made part is not there, you could have a US made Coffee Maker mounted in its place and you would be just fine. The whole objective is to reduce the number of parts from the list to 10 or less. You could have 100 US parts, but if you have over 10 foreign parts the gun would still not be in compliance. We are discussing 922® here, I have no firsthand knowledge of any state laws except, NC, SC and GA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SELFDEFENSE 2 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 So a US made muzzle brake or flash hider would be 922r compliant since in the Soupbowl sticky of this section it is item 5: "(5) Muzzle attachments (shotguns w/ threaded barrels only)" It seems obvious from the language, but for some reason, people seem to be more sure that the gas puck is compliant than any sort of muzzle brake/flash hider/choke part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 ... It seems obvious from the language, but for some reason, people seem to be more sure that the gas puck is compliantthan any sort of muzzle brake/flash hider/choke part. No really, there is just a lot of gas puck related discussion here lately. It seems that way because there are some new high quality gas pucks available for a decent price. On the other hand, I have built 3 S12s and never replaced a gas puck yet. I am waiting to see how the combination of the Gasfixer plug works with the King Armory Gas Puck works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SELFDEFENSE 2 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 ... It seems obvious from the language, but for some reason, people seem to be more sure that the gas puck is compliantthan any sort of muzzle brake/flash hider/choke part. No really, there is just a lot of gas puck related discussion here lately. It seems that way because there are some new high quality gas pucks available for a decent price. On the other hand, I have built 3 S12s and never replaced a gas puck yet. I am waiting to see how the combination of the Gasfixer plug works with the King Armory Gas Puck works. But I have heard in other discussions that the US brake/hider alternative is not compliant, which does not seem correct given the Soupbowl language. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Yes the front grip is a p22r part if its made in the USA. Yes the break counts, though some have argued that it dosn't. I don't understand where the threading on the barrel(a part of the barrel) would ever be the part. If that were the case then the barrels KA is making will count as 2 parts, and i highly doubt that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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