Vultite 57 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I'm putting this up to settle a debate...I have a Robinson Arms XCR....the barrel is 16" and the OAL is almost 27", The gun currently has no stock (also is unfired in box) I'm getting the usual people saying "Oh noes!! that's a NFA item, you better cough up $200 bucks!" Now, I'm thinking to myself, why the fuck would I pay for a SBR when it's not? how is this not legal? BTW, it's currently stockless because i'm awaiting the new stock system Rob Arms is developing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I'm putting this up to settle a debate...I have a Robinson Arms XCR....the barrel is 16" and the OAL is almost 27", The gun currently has no stock (also is unfired in box) I'm getting the usual people saying "Oh noes!! that's a NFA item, you better cough up $200 bucks!" Now, I'm thinking to myself, why the fuck would I pay for a SBR when it's not? how is this not legal? BTW, it's currently stockless because i'm awaiting the new stock system Rob Arms is developing. And you have been shooting it with a bare tube sticking out the back of it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted June 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 (edited) I'm putting this up to settle a debate...I have a Robinson Arms XCR....the barrel is 16" and the OAL is almost 27", The gun currently has no stock (also is unfired in box) I'm getting the usual people saying "Oh noes!! that's a NFA item, you better cough up $200 bucks!" Now, I'm thinking to myself, why the fuck would I pay for a SBR when it's not? how is this not legal? BTW, it's currently stockless because i'm awaiting the new stock system Rob Arms is developing. And you have been shooting it with a bare tube sticking out the back of it? Bare tube? no tube...it's a gas piston system...the back has a slot for a stock adapter if needed, otherwise think of it as a underfolder AK, just no folding stock and, I haven't shot it yet...but I have brought it out a couple of times for show with some wierd looks lol Edited June 11, 2009 by Vultite Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I'm putting this up to settle a debate...I have a Robinson Arms XCR....the barrel is 16" and the OAL is almost 27", The gun currently has no stock ***(also is unfired in box)***I'm getting the usual people saying "Oh noes!! that's a NFA item, you better cough up $200 bucks!" Now, I'm thinking to myself, why the fuck would I pay for a SBR when it's not? how is this not legal? BTW, it's currently stockless because i'm awaiting the new stock system Rob Arms is developing. And you have been shooting it with a bare tube sticking out the back of it? Hello bolded text... He hasn't fired it.It is a rifle awaiting its proper buttstock, it is for all intents and purposes partially disassembled. It is not therefore, IMO, a SBR... Tho my opinion does differ from that of the BATFE. I think your safe as long as your not taking it out for a little work out at the range. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 My bad, i thought we were talking about a AR here. I don't see why this would be illigal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I'm putting this up to settle a debate...I have a Robinson Arms XCR....the barrel is 16" and the OAL is almost 27", The gun currently has no stock ***(also is unfired in box)***I'm getting the usual people saying "Oh noes!! that's a NFA item, you better cough up $200 bucks!" Now, I'm thinking to myself, why the fuck would I pay for a SBR when it's not? how is this not legal? BTW, it's currently stockless because i'm awaiting the new stock system Rob Arms is developing. And you have been shooting it with a bare tube sticking out the back of it? Hello bolded text... He hasn't fired it.It is a rifle awaiting its proper buttstock, it is for all intents and purposes partially disassembled. It is not therefore, IMO, a SBR... Tho my opinion does differ from that of the BATFE. I think your safe as long as your not taking it out for a little work out at the range. yeah i was a bit quick to jump there, i agree with your position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vbrtrmn 167 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 I think the people who are shouting NFA don't know their asses from holes in the ground. Removing the stock from a firearm doesn't make it an illegal firearm, it makes it a disassembled firearm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Short barreled rifle (SBR) is a legal designation in the United States, referring to a shoulder-fired, rifled firearm with a ***barrel length of less than 16 inches (40.6 cm) or overall length of less than 26 inches (66.0 cm).*** In the United States, an SBR is an item regulated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) as a title II weapon. In the absence of local laws prohibiting ownership, American civilians may own an SBR provided it is registered with the BATFE, and a $200 tax is paid prior to taking possession of or creating the firearm. Definitely not a SBR by definition... Take it to the range and fire for effect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 the barrel is 16" and the OAL is almost 27", The gun currently has no stock Entirely legal. Federal law says 26" overall. His is 27" ✓ Federal law says 16" barrel. His is 16" ✓ What's the issue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted June 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 the barrel is 16" and the OAL is almost 27", The gun currently has no stock Entirely legal. Federal law says 26" overall. His is 27" ✓ Federal law says 16" barrel. His is 16" ✓ What's the issue? I thought so, people make a big fuss over it b/c it has no stock, when it doesn't need a stock to operate or meet length requirements. Well, we'll see what the range officers think about it and see if I make the news or not lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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