Tazman2 0 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 Have a low mileage .308 that I bought last Nov/Decish. Anyways getting the below on chambering. WTF!? Clearly its the bolt piece hitting it but why!? HELP! Excuse the crappy pic quality... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted September 4, 2009 Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 is that the top round in your factory mag? If so options are: Load one less round in the mag Load mag on an open bolt. If thats every round then you may have a bolt has an unfinished part on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tazman2 0 Posted September 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2009 (edited) is that the top round in your factory mag? If so options are: Load one less round in the mag Load mag on an open bolt. If thats every round then you may have a bolt has an unfinished part on it. No, its on the 25 rd surefire mag where the bullet is on the other side ie in the way of the lug of the bolt. Can this still be the unfinished part issue? After I posted I did a search and saw a guy in December had a similar issue but much worse and RAAC fixed it for free but I don't recall if his did it with the factory mag or not. Thanks! PS: When I tried this with my factory mag it gets stuck on the 2nd round when hand cycling as the round is on the otherside then thus replicating the 25rders 1st bullet side. Edited September 4, 2009 by Tazman2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 All mine did this using the factory 8 rounder. they did for a while, but after shooting different types of ammo,.. and "Wear it in" time,.. I only get dings now from the dust cover,.. no more gouges Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BKLYN_C 14 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 is that the top round in your factory mag? If so options are: Load one less round in the mag Load mag on an open bolt. If thats every round then you may have a bolt has an unfinished part on it. No, its on the 25 rd surefire mag where the bullet is on the other side ie in the way of the lug of the bolt. Can this still be the unfinished part issue? After I posted I did a search and saw a guy in December had a similar issue but much worse and RAAC fixed it for free but I don't recall if his did it with the factory mag or not. Thanks! PS: When I tried this with my factory mag it gets stuck on the 2nd round when hand cycling as the round is on the otherside then thus replicating the 25rders 1st bullet side. Surefire have a tendency to missalign the rounds. Listen to csspecs, he is talking the truth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 (edited) Ok another question, does it do that to every round on that side of the magazine or just the first couple out? If its just the first couple then it may stop doing that once you get some more rounds down the barrel. I can't say for sure without holding the rifle in my hands and looking.. I'd say that its possible a box or two of wolf ammo will help rub the edge thats gouging the brass cases. You could try asking RAAC to see what they think about the round gouging. They may be able to tell you for sure if its just a break in thing or if it needs to be repaired. Edited September 5, 2009 by csspecs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darth AkSarBen 20 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 There was a thread about this gouging of the rounds a while back. I just got a .308 Saiga, and tonight, after taking it all apart to clean, I used my dremel and polished the '3rd' lug that might contact the brass. Mind you I didn't change tolerances, I just used the fine sanding disc and went over the radius lightly that had been put in there at the factory to alleviate all this. I also polished the underneat of the bolt carrier so that it glides along the cartridges and cocks the hammer. This creates less drag. I don't think shooting and "trying" to wear it in is a good idea. Either take it to a gun smith and simply take a very close look at the bolt and polilsh the edge that meets the brass so that it does not have a sharp edge. YOU polishing it with tools is a heck of a lot better than letting ammo do this job. Safer too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tazman2 0 Posted September 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hmm... I don't have any wolf but so far had about 100 rds of Winchester/NATO through the rifle and then about 100-150 rounds of brown bear. So not much rounds just yet. My wallet and shoulder can only take so much! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stansplace 414 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 My .308 Saiga was doing the exact same thing after conversion and I couldn't find much info on the problem. However after investigating some more I found some info somewhere about how it would do this to the rounds on the left side of the magazine because of a machining process that was skipped on some of these rifles. It was probably posted on this site somewhere, but I can't find it. Anyhow, all i did was some careful dremel work on the area that was giving me problems. Mine was so bad it would actually puncture some brass. Causing unreliability in my rifle as well. After the work, mine runs great and does not damage rounds anymore at all. Hope this helps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darth AkSarBen 20 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Try this thread: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showto...34785&st=20 pictures are kind of LARGE but the same thing was happening. Page 2 of this thread has the pictures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tazman2 0 Posted September 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Try this thread: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showto...34785&st=20 pictures are kind of LARGE but the same thing was happening. Page 2 of this thread has the pictures. Thanks! Know what I'm gonna dremel it myself screw sending it out. I've had bad luck with random stuff lately (chinese food mess up today) and others stuff here and there so with my luck it'll get lost! Anyways. Care to mock up the bolt pic to show me exactly what I need to dremel off? I think I see what I need to do versus my bolt but not 100% sure. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Hmm... I don't have any wolf but so far had about 100 rds of Winchester/NATO through the rifle and then about 100-150 rounds of brown bear. So not much rounds just yet. My wallet and shoulder can only take so much! Yeah if it was going to smooth out it would have already. Sounds like home gun smithing time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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