rrr70 5 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Picking up 7.62 today and want to do a conversion without replacing butstock so I can use my old REGULAR CAPACITY AK magazines. From what I understand I need to replace four parts :hammer, disconnector, foregrip and piston. Am I correct in my calculations? Also at some point I want to replace FSB for 24mm FSB and install a muzzle brake. will it affect conversion and if yes what can be done? P.S. Kalifornia gun laws are retarded, but we working on it. Already have 20" .223. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Picking up 7.62 today and want to do a conversion without replacing butstock so I can use my old REGULAR CAPACITY AK magazines. From what I understand I need to replace four parts :hammer, disconnector, foregrip and piston. Am I correct in my calculations? Also at some point I want to replace FSB for 24mm FSB and install a muzzle brake. will it affect conversion and if yes what can be done? P.S. Kalifornia gun laws are retarded, but we working on it. Already have 20" .223. I don't think you will be able to use another FCG without changing out the buttstock and moving forward the trigger, though I could be mistaken. Also, doesn't CA law prohibit mags greater than 10 rounds? Notwithstanding that, Federal law could be satisfied by changing either the handguard or gas piston, and using American made mags only. You could resort to your other stash of mags if the SHTF and the law becomes irrelevant. Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rrr70 5 Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Can not have new full cap magz in Cali, only pre-ban and only in featureless build. Dinzag has FCG for unconverted Saigas :hammer and disconnector. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Star Arms 2,047 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Theoretically, you should be able to do a pistol grip conversion and retain the monte carlo stock. You may have to remove the stock and re install it, but that's not a big deal. The biggest issue I see is that you will need an American parts count high enough to qualify as 922® compliant. The FCG is three, the US made pistol grip is one. Replacing the Russian stock with a US made stock is one more, as is replacing the US made forend. You may need other US components - best to check for a list of required parts If you are not planning on going 922® compliant, you will want to leave the rifle as is. As you live in the peoples republic of California, there are many anti gun radicals looking for any excuse to take your weapon away, and if they can - you along with it. Peace. WS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigafreake 27 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 so you are just swapping out enough parts to use 10+ round mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rrr70 5 Posted September 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 so you are just swapping out enough parts to use 10+ round mags. Yep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigafreake 27 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Gotcha just replace the hammer disconector gas piston and handguard and your gtg as far as i know but i dnt know california law. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Picking up 7.62 today and want to do a conversion without replacing butstock so I can use my old REGULAR CAPACITY AK magazines. From what I understand I need to replace four parts :hammer, disconnector, foregrip and piston. Am I correct in my calculations? A US made FCG will give you 3 US made parts (trigger, hammer, disco). Then, all you'd need to swap out is the handguard (easier than a piston swap). That's 4 parts, and you're free to use any mags of any size from any country (given your Cali laws are met, obviously). You can use the factory stock when the FCG is moved forward. I've seen it many times here. No problems there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rrr70 5 Posted September 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Picking up 7.62 today and want to do a conversion without replacing butstock so I can use my old REGULAR CAPACITY AK magazines. From what I understand I need to replace four parts :hammer, disconnector, foregrip and piston. Am I correct in my calculations? A US made FCG will give you 3 US made parts (trigger, hammer, disco). Then, all you'd need to swap out is the handguard (easier than a piston swap). That's 4 parts, and you're free to use any mags of any size from any country (given your Cali laws are met, obviously). You can use the factory stock when the FCG is moved forward. I've seen it many times here. No problems there. But if I move FCG forward it's gonna be weird to operate without grip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Picking up 7.62 today and want to do a conversion without replacing butstock so I can use my old REGULAR CAPACITY AK magazines. From what I understand I need to replace four parts :hammer, disconnector, foregrip and piston. Am I correct in my calculations? A US made FCG will give you 3 US made parts (trigger, hammer, disco). Then, all you'd need to swap out is the handguard (easier than a piston swap). That's 4 parts, and you're free to use any mags of any size from any country (given your Cali laws are met, obviously). You can use the factory stock when the FCG is moved forward. I've seen it many times here. No problems there. But if I move FCG forward it's gonna be weird to operate without grip. My mistake. I missed the part about you not wanting to add a pistol grip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vbrtrmn 167 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Man those are some gnarly looking toes! (not that mine are much better) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zeus45c 0 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Sorry to thread jack but I am in a similar boat living behind the Iron Curtain and thought this is relevant to the ops question. When replacing the hammer and disconnector, you still have to drill out the rivets for the FCG, correct? What can be used to replace those rivets and hold the FCG when not pushing it forward. I'm sure I can scour the hardware store but what are most people using that is reliable and clean looking. Thanks!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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