normnip 1 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I think it's called the bolt carrier. Re: the bottom part of the carrier that resets the hammer to fire again: I think it passes by too close to my Red Star Arms FCG. I think the side of the carrier is rubbing against it. Too close for comfort! I want to sand off 1/100's of an inch or 2/100's from that side of the carrier. I can't see any harm in doing this. Can anyone see any harm? Thanks for any help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JulianH 4 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Umm... if you really think you need to smooth something out, I'd recommend doing it on the FCG, not the bold carrier. FCG can be replaced, but I don't think there's anything out there that can replace your bolt carrier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigafreake 27 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 what do you think the carrier is rubbing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
normnip 1 Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I agree with the logic about messing up on the FCG because it's replaceable but it's been awhile since I took out the FCG: what a bear! (Some more sanding or grinding down of the FCG's top elbow above the sear would do the trick.) So I called Randall, owner of Red Star Arms, and passed it by him. He agreed 10 to 20 x 1000ths of an inch won't hurt anything. He reminded me it's hardened steel and it'll take awhile. And it sure is - 1/1000th at a time! Since it's about a 2" x 3/16" flat surface I'm not comfortable using my Dremel tool to sand it down so . . .sandpaper on a little block of wood using school glue so I can keep replacing the sandpaper. Actually it's more like 1/2 x 1000th" at a time! But time I have. Maybe I can stop at 10 x 1000ths . . . To the second reply: The carrier rubs up against the FCG when it goes back. Too close for comfort. Thanks for the help guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
normnip 1 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I'm done and I'm happy with the result. I took off 20 x 1000th" off the carrier. Half way through I didn't think it 20 would be enough. I figured out I could sand off the offending edge on my RSA-FCG - with it still in the rifle! And it worked. What a relief. Just for the record, I had already (at the original installation of my RSA-FCG) ground down the elbow quite a bit so it would clear the bolt. I now wish that maybe I should have gone a little further. I say 'maybe' because in deciding to just sand off the edge, it looked like I might not be able to grind the elbow down much further. It may have been too much for comfort. There's that damn word again - 'comfort'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darth AkSarBen 20 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Glad you got it. I can't imagine what it was that could have been a problem on the bolt carrier. As it is designed it slides back across the face of the hammer and resets the hammer back. I would guess that the carrier was also hitting on an edge of the hammer sear or disconnect? I've never seen a Red Star Arms FCG as all I have is the Tapco FCG. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
normnip 1 Posted October 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) The RSA-FCG is the only one I've ever worked on so I can't compare either. The RSA-FCG was designed for the AK-47. It'll work on the Saiga as a drop in but the first sign of a problem for me was in trying to insert the carrier. Then the bolt was hitting on recoil. Not good. This has been true for others on this forum. It's a great FCG it just needs a little. Randall, the owner of Red Star Arms, has been easy to talk to. The part of the carrier that resets the hammer and looks like a fat ski or one foot of a sled was brushing by the elbow of which, as I think you point out, the sear is a part of. This is too close for me considering the amount of free play and recoil forces at work. Therefore this fat ski was too fat/wide for comfort. Another point I didn't mention previously that helped minimize my concern is that this may not be a problem when I'm actually firing the weapon because I'm holding the trigger back in followthrough which actually depresses this FCG 'elbow' safely out of the way with a fair amount of clearance. In other words, maybe the only time there might be problem is when I hand-rack that first round - not much to worry about recoil forces there. BUT since I'm no expert . . . I'd rather not take any chances. I just hope I was clearer than mud. Edited October 24, 2009 by storminNorm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cscharlie 107 Posted October 28, 2009 Report Share Posted October 28, 2009 This is a Saiga 308 rifle you put it in right? and you used a VEPER 308 RSA fire control group correct.? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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