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I'm considering purchasing a Saiga 308 sometime this year or next. The local gun shop has several models available but one in particular caught my eye. It's a Converted Saiga 308 with a 22" barrel, large scope with visor (not sure brand), bipod, 8 round mag, and Dragonov style stock. I was thinking of buying a stock one and then adding upgrades as necessary, but this one looks to be pretty much how I would set one up (I might add an adjustable stock). The shop is asking about $800 for it. Good deal? Would I be better off buying a less expensive 308 and then adding the bits I want (scope, bipod, Adjustable stock)? I haven't been shopping around for one very long. Thanks.

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Find out what kind of scope and mount is involved. Muzzle attachments on it? Devil is always in the details. Its not a horrible price but then you didnt give much to go on.

Check the weight also when you say large scope that could add 3 or 4 pounds to the rifle easy. Just a suggestion. Used or new? etc etc etc

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I stopped by the shop today. First off, after looking at it closer this time, it is NOT converted yet. Still in sporting configuration. The scope is a UTG 4-16 x 50 Illuminated (Which he has on sale separately for $89). It has a 21" barrel. Up until today I was unaware that UTG made scopes. Any thoughts?

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I stopped by the shop today. First off, after looking at it closer this time, it is NOT converted yet. Still in sporting configuration. The scope is a UTG 4-16 x 50 Illuminated (Which he has on sale separately for $89). It has a 21" barrel. Up until today I was unaware that UTG made scopes. Any thoughts?

 

 

$800 for a non converted rifle is crazy!!!!!! Just my opinion.

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I stopped by the shop today. First off, after looking at it closer this time, it is NOT converted yet. Still in sporting configuration. The scope is a UTG 4-16 x 50 Illuminated (Which he has on sale separately for $89). It has a 21" barrel. Up until today I was unaware that UTG made scopes. Any thoughts?

 

 

$800 for a non converted rifle is crazy!!!!!! Just my opinion.

 

 

 

Agreed, and I have never heard of a UTG scope either, but they dont have the best rep on some of their other parts. And scopes more than anything else, you get what you pay for.

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That's what it looks like.

 

He has the same rifle converted with 8 and 20 round mags, but minus scope and bipod for $800. Still seems a bit high.

 

So I guess the question is how much should I expect to budget to get the rifle I want?

 

.308 caliber

20"-22" barrel

Bipod

Good scope

Adjustable stock

Converted

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The rifle itself, around $500 + or -

 

The rest depands on what you want.

 

Bipod- Harris? Around $80. Rail mounted? UTG type bipod around $30. Pistol grip/bipod?

 

Scope- A western type (rail mounted) than you need a side rail or some other type of rail. A Russian POSP scope? Depanding on the zoom and a few other features about $250 and up (new)

 

Stock- will probobly be considered part of the conversion. A tapco AR type stock around $50 The rest of the conversion depands on how plain or fancy you want to get.

Handguards - AK like, (than you need the retainer) Saiga, complete rail all around? 3 sided, just the top,.....etc...etc.. UTG is prolly the cheapest (not sure if they fit the 308) Ultimak makes a good one but can be over $200 depanding on what you want.

Pistol Grip- plain, cheap one about $10 maybe cheaper if you can find a used one.

Trigger group about $30

 

You should ask yourself what you want your rifle to do. MBR, semi auto sniper, carbine.... And go from there. I assume, by your description your looking for something between an MBR and a sniper. Check the pic thread see what suits you most.

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Thanks Arik. The $500ish you're estimating for the rifle, is that converted or non-converted?

 

I think I'd like to be able to go out to about 300-400 yards or so with the rifle, so that would put it into the MBR range then? I think most of my budget for this will go into the rifle itself and a scope. I already have an extra rail hanging around and I can get an adjustable Tapco stock pretty cheap locally.

 

I'm not real picky about thing like having the furniture all perfect or authentic. I just want something that works and puts little pieces of metal down range consistently (I think this is what attracts me to the AK style anyway :) ).

 

Do you guys shop for your rifles online?

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$500 +/- just for the rifle. Unless you find some sort of a package deal.

 

I shop online. Most of the stores around here stock a large amount of shotguns, bolts, and ARs. And 1 or 2 Century Ak.

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I bought original S-308 (16") from Gunbroker a few weeks ago for $400 (only one that bid, and my max bid was $500!) After shipping/ BG was about $450...

 

Just converted with an ACE folder (also from Gunbroker), Dinzag FCG/ Trigger Guard, and a SAW grip. I'm into it for about $650(ish).

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The UTG is a cheap Chinese scope. I would also take a hard look at the bipod and see if it is a genuine Harris. They Chinese have been making knock-offs of this as well. It is worth about $30, used. For a non-converted rifle, this does not sound like a great deal to me.

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Now there's a thought. If I bought one on gunbroker I'd just have to have it shipped to my local gun shop, right? I'll have to keep an eye on that place...

 

 

I swear by Gunbroker. Got many good deals buying and made some good money selling as well. VERY HELPFUL- Use Smart Search to check ONLY the completed auctions to get an accurate idea of a price range they actually sell for, and then bid on a current auction accordingly. Don't get frustrated missing out on a few auctions (or more....). If your bid is REALISTIC you will win one eventually. Goes without saying how dangerous it is to bid on more than one at a time though!

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I think before you buy anything from GB or a dealer from another state you should figure in the cost of shipping AND how much your dealer is going to charge for paperwork. For instance my dealer charges $40. $35 for paperwork and $5 background check. So sometimes what might seem like a good deal ends up costing the same or sometimes more.

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<br />I think before you buy anything from GB or a dealer from another state you should figure in the cost of shipping AND how much your dealer is going to charge for paperwork. For instance my dealer charges $40. $35 for paperwork and $5 background check. So sometimes what might seem like a good deal ends up costing the same or sometimes more.<br />
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My FFL charges 10 bucks. That's it. I found him on the Gunbroker list. It allows you to search by zip code. I'm sure you're dealer is a stand up person, but you can find better deals out there.

 

Shipping is usually listed in the auction.

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Your shitting me! A dealer sold a .308 saiga for $400? WTF?

 

That's not what I've seen and I'm shopping (they didn't have a reserve price?)

 

 

Check the COMPLETED AUCTIONS, and you will see them ending at around $400...Just got to keep bidding until you get one. Mine was $400, and with BG and shipping came to about $450. I'm happy w/ that considering my max bid was $500, so would have been $550...

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