notofnow 5 Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 Got the AFG for my AR and liked it so much got another for the Saiga. Really makes a difference and comfortable to handle with stock folded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted April 23, 2010 Report Share Posted April 23, 2010 Glad to hear you like it. I'm considering the same thing for my Saiga 223. Here's a conceptual drawing: Can the AFG mount any further back towards the magwell, or will it interfere with the mag insertion? Corbin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notofnow 5 Posted April 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 Any further and it catches the finger when releasing the mag. Could probably find a method and get used to it but i put it a notch further up and it was perfect. Glad to hear you like it. I'm considering the same thing for my Saiga 223. Here's a conceptual drawing: Can the AFG mount any further back towards the magwell, or will it interfere with the mag insertion? Corbin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 I can see what you mean. My problem wouldn't be in releasing the mag so much as inserting the mag. My fingers tend to wrap around the front of the mag and would probably get pinched. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 (edited) FWIW, keep in mind the Magpul AFT was ergonomically designed to provide a far-forward grip position on the rifle's forend (as depicted below): By positioning it closer to the rifle's or shottie's magwell and receiver, you are losing some of the benefits of its design. Frankly, if you desire to grip the firearm's forend closer to the receiver there are likely better products, specifically vertical grips that would ergonomically serve the shooter better. Just my two-cents. Edited April 24, 2010 by Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted April 24, 2010 Report Share Posted April 24, 2010 I can see your point. However, I have a special situation in that I cannot flex or extend my right wrist due to a gunshot injury a couple decades ago. As such, I cannot lay my palm flat on the bottom of the HG very well and my hand naturally sets in the position the AFG provides. I prefer holding my AKs close to the magazines. I've tried vert grips and they're OK, but they're a pain for doing shoulder transitions, so I don't use them now, for the most part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notofnow 5 Posted May 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 FWIW, keep in mind the Magpul AFT was ergonomically designed to provide a far-forward grip position on the rifle's forend (as depicted below): By positioning it closer to the rifle's or shottie's magwell and receiver, you are losing some of the benefits of its design. Frankly, if you desire to grip the firearm's forend closer to the receiver there are likely better products, specifically vertical grips that would ergonomically serve the shooter better. Just my two-cents. I don't know what to tell ya, i like the way the afg feels close in better than a vertical grip. The weight seems to distribute better across my left arm the way the forearm is turned. I guess i'm strange like that. Check out how my red dot isn't low enough to co-lo with my irons like most other folks. To me, i can acquire targets faster when its up high like it is. I have a quick detach lever on it so guess i'll just deal with when the red dot goes out. Of course, i'm just a mall ninja so its not like i really know anything. I think the afg does look cool on it though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zambidis 90 Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 If you like it and it works for you then that is all that matter but I must admit that your red dot looks like it sits high enough to preclude any decent cheek weld and the placement of the AFG also had me wondering. But, like I said if it works for you. How did you attach the AFG to the stock hand guard? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notofnow 5 Posted May 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 i took one of the picatinny rails from my MOE handguard and screwed it in to the receiver and stock saiga handguard. I then drilled a second hole where the other end of the rail was and bolted that in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bohound 281 Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 (edited) Of course, i'm just a mall ninja so its not like i really know anything. First time I've ever seen somebody type THAT admission. VERY un-ninja like. Edited May 11, 2010 by bohound Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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