Snag on my wasr.

[VaiFanatic90 360]

I was just doing a function check with some snap caps from numerous magazines. The bolt would either stop an half an inch before being completely forward, or it would go forward completely and get stuck causing me to have to remove the spring, and use a mallet to hammer it out. However, when I pull the magazine toward me as I chamber, it works. However, upon trying to eject the round, the bolt won't move beyond the magazine. It would appear that maybe as CAI they filed something down too much? Everything was perfect, but now I'm hit with this snag =[ Anyone else experience this?

 

Edit: Here's a picture of when I tried chambering a live round. It's the round on the left, and notice how the tip of the round has been ground down. That was after two attempts and the bolt carrier getting stuck.

Edited July 4, 2010 by VaiFanatic90

[paprotective 362]

Is that with Poly mags or Surplus Steel ones?? Did the rifle come with Poly mags (most Century ones do)??

 

Try with Steel/Surplus mags.. Sounds like a Mag issue to me.. IMHO..

 

Also check the bullet-guide and feeding.. may need to be 'edged' abit to facilitate feeding angle.. (aka knock the squared edge off abit). Maybe the bolt is hitting the BG rivet??

 

Got an inside pic of the receiver??

[MN.9130 44]

An additional tip that might help forum members ID this problem: Take the dust cover off (but leave the spring assy. in place,) and try chambering a snap-cap or dummy round (no live rounds, please!) That way, you should be able to visually see what's going on, and photograph it.

 

Hope that helps!

Edited July 4, 2010 by MN.9130

[VaiFanatic90 360]

The mags are two surplus steel mags. Ones a 40 and the other is a 30. I'll post a few pictures of the inside of the receiver. I'll use my dummy Tula round since that's what I mostly shoot right now out of my rifles anyway.

[VaiFanatic90 360]

Okay guys, here you go. If you have anymore picture requests, don't hesitate to ask. The first two picture are obviously without a mag of any kind. The next for pictures are all taken with the 30-round mag. In the last of the 4 pictures with the 30-rounder, the bolt is completely forward, but it's slammed shut. Had to mallet that sucker out. The last two photos are with the 40-rounder. I would have posted more, but the function check on that one actually worked today. The dummy ejected right out.

[paprotective 362]

Thinking the BG needs a shave down across the entire top surface.. the right side of the BG should NOT be higher than that little lip thing on the right side.. Thats also the spot and the side where the bolt rotates and may be causing the problems. Use a round dremel CONE grind wheel maybe..

 

I know when I first did my BG in my 7.62x39 Saiga the bolt had to be pounded shut and pounded open due to fit.. hedgeing the BG scenerio based on that.. its obvious you have metal to metal binding going on.

 

Hope that helps.. Worst case you F'up the BG and have to get another for $20... or worst case would be sending back to MFG and then wait for your FFL again to process it back for you again..

 

If you can post a pic of the 'left' side of the bullet guide area that may help us also..

 

 

 

 

[VaiFanatic90 360]

Thinking the BG needs a shave down across the entire top surface.. the right side of the BG should NOT be higher than that little lip thing on the right side.. Thats also the spot and the side where the bolt rotates and may be causing the problems. Use a round dremel CONE grind wheel maybe..

 

I know when I first did my BG in my 7.62x39 Saiga the bolt had to be pounded shut and pounded open due to fit.. hedgeing the BG scenerio based on that.. its obvious you have metal to metal binding going on.

 

Hope that helps.. Worst case you F'up the BG and have to get another for $20... or worst case would be sending back to MFG and then wait for your FFL again to process it back for you again..

 

If you can post a pic of the 'left' side of the bullet guide area that may help us also..

 

Will do Al, just give me a few.

[VaiFanatic90 360]

There you go, the left side.

[paprotective 362]

Heres an AK103 bullet guide. See how the left side isn't THAT high up near that lug/rivet.. And notice the slight chamfer near the chamber face where the BOLT would rotate around normally. Maybe try to duplicate this on what you have..

 

 

Seems like your bolt ain't rotating and its sticking to me..

[paprotective 362]

Heres the spots I'm thinking that are NOT helping you with rotation..

 

[VaiFanatic90 360]

Ahh, I see what you're saying. I don't have my dremel right now, so I guess it'll have to wait.

[paprotective 362]

The simpler option may be to remove that BG and just get another..

 

Maybe others will chime in..

 

I just think that lil' track/gap on that side is there for a reason and why when people use that 'type' (AK103) of AK bullet guide they say to trim down the left edge and also not 'ride' the right side up to high either when installing.

 

Give it a few days and re-bump the post back up after the 5th.. IMHO.

[VaiFanatic90 360]

The simpler option may be to remove that BG and just get another..

 

Maybe others will chime in..

 

I just think that lil' track/gap on that side is there for a reason and why when people use that 'type' (AK103) of AK bullet guide they say to trim down the left edge and also not 'ride' the right side up to high either when installing.

 

Give it a few days and re-bump the post back up after the 5th.. IMHO.

 

I'll see if I can just file the right side down somehow, it does look too high. I'm not sure how I'll do on the left, but maybe I can come up with something. I'd rather try that way than pop it out only to have to worry about putting it back in.

[icefire 10]

Try a small round chain saw file, you can get them at hardware stores. very long and thin, and can get into tight places to file out small areas. Also, a small flat chain saw raker file will help file down the flat edge where it comes over into the magwell a bit. (those look like miniture flat files). after filing down the places the bullets are catching on, take some find sandpaper and smooth it all out, and blow everything clean in there. Should fix it...

[VaiFanatic90 360]

After looking at my Bulgy-74, I've decided to use it's bullet guide as a model for the wasr. It looks identical to the 103 Al posted. This gives me a physical object to refer to when I'm out doing this. But I have a chain saw file so I'll give it a try. Plenty of sand paper and emery cloth as well.

[VaiFanatic90 360]

Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way, but when I try to get up into the receiver with the file, I get nowhere.

[VaiFanatic90 360]

Used a bit of emery cloth to smooth it down, and that did the trick. It chambers and ejects with no problem!

[L5K 162]

Although this has been solved. I want to add just to clarify...

 

The AK 100 series and newer bullet guide does not have the area on the left side that goes up because on the 100 series they started using a little rivet/nub that starts rotating the bolt. On an older rifle, any AKM, AK74 or anything really, the bullet guide goes up and has a ramp there that starts the rotation of the bolt to engage the locking lugs.