freddy g 11 Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 what do you 7.62 guy's do to hold the lower handgaurds on without the notches in the barrel? my saiga 7.62 has no notches for the retainer lock,i guess a gunsmith could do it,or i have seen some use the din-zag adapter,i would rather figure out how to use the AK retainer,so any ideas would be great.......thanks.......fred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Just take a dremel tool and make the notches yourself, it's not all too difficult and actually quite fun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rockina 60 Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Just take a dremel tool and make the notches yourself, it's not all too difficult and actually quite fun. What he said !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freddy g 11 Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 sounds good,i could do that! thanks guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Np! Pics when you're done!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g.j.stoll@gmail.com 0 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Just out of curiosity, will a standard ak stock fit into an unconverted saiga? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
protected static 19 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Just out of curiosity, will a standard ak stock fit into an unconverted saiga? Yeah, but it probably won't be the most comfortable grip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Just out of curiosity, will a standard ak stock fit into an unconverted saiga? The lower tang for the third screw on an unconverted Saiga will probably prevent an AK buttstock from being attached unless it is cut/ground off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freddy g 11 Posted September 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Just out of curiosity, will a standard ak stock fit into an unconverted saiga? actually i had to shave the front corners off my romanian wood stocks to make them fit in my saigaX39 reciever, i had to do that to 2 different romanian stock's because i switched the one on my WASR because the color was closer on front wood. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g.j.stoll@gmail.com 0 Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Thanks guys! Next question: Will the lower hand guard retainer that comes with the Tapco Galil hand guard fit other standard ones as well? I have never owned an AK before so I feel more comfortable adding goofy shit to it than I do taking goofy shit off of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freddy g 11 Posted September 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 (edited) Np! Pics when you're done!! well the saiga conversion is finally done! I think it looks good, what do you guys think? Edited September 23, 2010 by freddy g 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Will the lower hand guard retainer that comes with the Tapco Galil hand guard fit other standard ones as well? No, it will not. You can use the TAPCO Galil handguard with standard retainers or the one included, but you can't use regular hanguards with the TAPCO retainer. If you wanted to do AK handguards you will have to either remove the gas block and sight tower, or use a bolt on retainer like this one: http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-460/Saiga-Lower-Handguard-Bracket/Detail 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g.j.stoll@gmail.com 0 Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Big PRK thanks to everyone who answered my questions! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Np! Pics when you're done!! well the saiga conversion is finally done! I think it looks good, what do you guys think? Looks great!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Sorry But I need to Highjack your thread for a second rather than start a whole new post asking similar questions. And NICE conversion! really dig the furnature. OK, so, I bought two of the lower hand guard retainers from Greg @CSS and I ended up having to use two smaller screws and nuts to secure them to the barrel. I read above above about notches? What notches? Do I need to dremel out the barrel abit to make the origional screw/bolt and nut fit? Im going home at lunch and Ill take some pics if it would help to explain? Any help would be appreciated! Greg 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 (edited) Sorry But I need to Highjack your thread for a second rather than start a whole new post asking similar questions. And NICE conversion! really dig the furnature. OK, so, I bought two of the lower hand guard retainers from Greg @CSS and I ended up having to use two smaller screws and nuts to secure them to the barrel. I read above above about notches? What notches? Do I need to dremel out the barrel abit to make the origional screw/bolt and nut fit? Im going home at lunch and Ill take some pics if it would help to explain? Any help would be appreciated! Greg Yes, there is a picture included with the retainer showing the approximate size and location of the notch that should be ground into the barrel. Standard AKs with the two piece handguards all have it. The notch is on the top of the barrel facing perpendicular towards it, and the #10-32 bolt that comes with the retainer, or the standard cam on an original retainer, clicks into that notch to prevent the handguard from sliding forward or along the axis of the barrel during firing. You could make the notch at the top with a dremel, but I'd recommend using a small round file instead. This way you can go much slower and carefully, and test fit to ensure you get a tight fit and do not grind too deep. I also recommend making the notch just slightly too far back, that way when you bolt the retainer in place it will be sure to hold the handguard on nice and tight. Edited September 24, 2010 by Classy Kalashnikov 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 (edited) Sorry But I need to Highjack your thread for a second rather than start a whole new post asking similar questions. And NICE conversion! really dig the furnature. OK, so, I bought two of the lower hand guard retainers from Greg @CSS and I ended up having to use two smaller screws and nuts to secure them to the barrel. I read above above about notches? What notches? Do I need to dremel out the barrel abit to make the origional screw/bolt and nut fit? Im going home at lunch and Ill take some pics if it would help to explain? Any help would be appreciated! Greg Yes, there is a picture included with the retainer showing the approximate size and location of the notch that should be ground into the barrel. Standard AKs with the two piece handguards all have it. The notch is on the top of the barrel facing perpendicular towards it, and the #10-32 bolt that comes with the retainer, or the standard cam on an original retainer, clicks into that notch to prevent the handguard from sliding forward or along the axis of the barrel during firing. You could make the notch at the top with a dremel, but I'd recommend using a small round file instead. This way you can go much slower and carefully, and test fit to ensure you get a tight fit and do not grind too deep. I also recommend making the notch just slightly too far back, that way when you bolt the retainer in place it will be sure to hold the handguard on nice and tight. SWEET! Thanks Classy! and Thanks freddy g for lettn me barrow your thread for a sec. +1000000000000000000000.00 Edited September 24, 2010 by AZG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freddy g 11 Posted September 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 Sorry But I need to Highjack your thread for a second rather than start a whole new post asking similar questions. And NICE conversion! really dig the furnature. OK, so, I bought two of the lower hand guard retainers from Greg @CSS and I ended up having to use two smaller screws and nuts to secure them to the barrel. I read above above about notches? What notches? Do I need to dremel out the barrel abit to make the origional screw/bolt and nut fit? Im going home at lunch and Ill take some pics if it would help to explain? Any help would be appreciated! Greg Yes, there is a picture included with the retainer showing the approximate size and location of the notch that should be ground into the barrel. Standard AKs with the two piece handguards all have it. The notch is on the top of the barrel facing perpendicular towards it, and the #10-32 bolt that comes with the retainer, or the standard cam on an original retainer, clicks into that notch to prevent the handguard from sliding forward or along the axis of the barrel during firing. You could make the notch at the top with a dremel, but I'd recommend using a small round file instead. This way you can go much slower and carefully, and test fit to ensure you get a tight fit and do not grind too deep. I also recommend making the notch just slightly too far back, that way when you bolt the retainer in place it will be sure to hold the handguard on nice and tight. SWEET! Thanks Classy! and Thanks freddy g for lettn me barrow your thread for a sec. +1000000000000000000000.00 any time AZG! and as classy say's go with file i used a cutting wheel on a dremel and i am not happy with the way it came out,it works good and it looks ok with the retainer on,but when the retainer is off it looks ugly,kinda butchered even though i was careful! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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