High Brass on 1 NO, High Brass on 2 YES

[Mike85220 0]

I had my Saiga 12 worked on and it runs great.

 

But... the problem is this, I was told to use gas POS 1 for High Brass and it seems to require it to be on POS 2.

 

I am shooting the Wal-Mart Federal bulk.

 

I am wondering if even though the Federal bulk pack is technically High Brass, it is a little underpowered.

 

When it is on 1, the bolt does not seem to move.

 

On 2, it cycles fine, but I worry I am beating the gun up doing it.

 

I do have a buffer installed.

 

Anyone else have this problem of Federal High Brass bulk from Wallace World needing POS 2 to cycle?

[The_Caged_Bird 474]

Bulk pack isn't "high brass" buckshot and slugs are high brass...

 

Basically anything that fires on #2, is low brass, anything that fires on #1 is high brass.

 

At least, that's the nomenclature used here... We could get into a semantic argument about this but that's the way we refer to ammo here.

Edited February 1, 2011 by Caged

[lbsrdi 1,078]

Bulk hi-brass?

[geepelton 105]

+1 for Caged

[YOT 3,743]

You can get high brass birdshot but it's usually going to say "Express" or "Maximum" or "Turkey" on the box and it's a lot more expensive.

[The_Caged_Bird 474]

You can get high brass birdshot but it's usually going to say "Express" or "Maximum" or "Turkey" on the box and it's a lot more expensive.

 

Yeah, and it usually STILL requires the #2 setting...

 

I wouldn't really know anymore though, because of the V-plug and opened up ports...

[KC913 324]

When folks say "high brass" when referring to the Saiga 12 they are usually talking about higher power shells, not the actual brass that the term originated from.

 

buckshot, slugs, etc = setting 1

birdshot = setting 2

[YOT 3,743]

My S12 has no problem running high brass express, magnum, maximum birdshot and turkey loads on setting 1. Those ARE high power shells. 3 3/4 Dram powder charge (in the Express) as opposed to 3 dram in the bulk pack loads.

[lbsrdi 1,078]

For me the name says it all, high brass- the brass goes up 3/4" to 1" the shell. Low brass has brass that only goes up 1/4" to 3/8" up the shell. And mid anywhere in between.

[Mike85220 0]

You guys have been very helpful, thank you.

 

I was told the depth of the brass portion of the round is what construed whether it was high brass or not.

I looked at all my bird shot and seen it was much shorter from rim to end point on the casing compared to the Federal I was shooting.

 

I think it was Federal field loads, but it does leave only marginally larger dots on the target compared to bird shot.

 

I was just worried that I was not getting enough gas and having to compensate by putting it on gas setting 2. The fear was that it was going to ruin my gun in short order.

 

Again, thank you!

[YOT 3,743]

You guys have been very helpful, thank you.

 

I was told the depth of the brass portion of the round is what construed whether it was high brass or not.

I looked at all my bird shot and seen it was much shorter from rim to end point on the casing compared to the Federal I was shooting.

 

I think it was Federal field loads, but it does leave only marginally larger dots on the target compared to bird shot.

 

I was just worried that I was not getting enough gas and having to compensate by putting it on gas setting 2. The fear was that it was going to ruin my gun in short order.

 

Again, thank you!

So you aren't confused, "birdshot" comes in different sizes. The most common in field loads are 7 1/2 and 8 (7 1/2 being "marginally" larger than 8). 9 is the smallest "common" birdshot size then 8, 7 1/2, 6, 4, 2...... More on that here.... http://www.shotgunworld.com/amm.html Edited February 7, 2011 by Yeoldetool