NewSaigaFan 1 Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 So I have this, and need to get it fixed up. Does anyone have some tips, advise or a guide to get the barrel back in? Getting it out was NOT fun. Good thing I was planning on cutting it down because the muzzle doesn't look great anymore. My current plan is to hone the two surfaces nicely and goop it up with some stuff that is designed for bolt gun barrels then seat the pin. If I do a good job honing it should go right in, but maybe there are other ideas? Thanks, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewSaigaFan 1 Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) Well... the silence is no surprise really. Edited March 11, 2011 by NewSaigaFan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike1234567 26 Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Well... the silence is no surprise really. Why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewSaigaFan 1 Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Well... the silence is no surprise really. Why? From what I have seen so far... This forum is filled with a lot of people who claim to be master gunsmiths and machinists but who actual experience goes not much farther than a dremel. That's not to say there isn't some talent here... But when something is actually tough to do, the amount of info seems to dry up really fast. I've seen a lot of talk. I'll toss the barrel in the lathe and hone it a bit, then clean up the receiver by hand. It'll go fine I was just curious if anyone knew any tips. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fumes 84 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Might want to give it more than 17 hrs., half of which was the middle of the night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 From what I have seen so far... This forum is filled with a lot of people who claim to be master gunsmiths and machinists but who actual experience goes not much farther than a dremel. That's not to say there isn't some talent here... But when something is actually tough to do, the amount of info seems to dry up really fast. I've seen a lot of talk. Maybe ways to reinstall the barrel should have been something you would have thought about before just pulling it in the first place. Try searching the forum for threads on pressing the barrel back in. They are here. In any case, patience and honest effort will get you a lot further than complaining. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewSaigaFan 1 Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 From what I have seen so far... This forum is filled with a lot of people who claim to be master gunsmiths and machinists but who actual experience goes not much farther than a dremel. That's not to say there isn't some talent here... But when something is actually tough to do, the amount of info seems to dry up really fast. I've seen a lot of talk. Maybe ways to reinstall the barrel should have been something you would have thought about before just pulling it in the first place. Try searching the forum for threads on pressing the barrel back in. They are here. Yea, I tried searching... I found such sage advice as: "Use a hacksaw", "Try a pipe cutter", "Sell it and buy a 19"... etc. Genius! Fuck that noise. I already have a plan and it'll work. The funny part here is you guys telling me I'm wrong in that the tech advise on this forum is a step behind, have not provided any answers, advice, or links. I'll hone the shit out of both surfaces and seat it myself . The gas block will have to go on after the barrel, during if I need to adjust the rotation. All I was asking was if there were any tricks, since searching didn't yield much, and the response so far is lacking, I'll keep looking. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Guess you haven't looked hard enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga12Lover 0 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) I also am having a problem finding something useful on this topic. I on the other hand have not yet removed my barrel. Anyone got any good and useful advice in this regard, or a link to a post with some good information? Edited March 12, 2011 by Saiga12Lover Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfanatic 221 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) Took me 30 sec to find. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/50520-saiga-12-barrel-removal/ Edited March 12, 2011 by Gun Fanatic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Took me 30 sec to find. http://forum.saiga-1...barrel-removal/ Thank you! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NewSaigaFan 1 Posted March 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Ha, yes, I saw that thread. I was asking about anything specific to the Saiga12 barrel. Not exactly a burn, but nice try. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfixr 76 Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Well, I'm just now seeing this thread, but I'll bite. Also, I did not look at the above linked thread, since I know how the AK system barrels come out and go in. Really, you should have some specific tooling for removing and reinstalling the barrel. The buggered up muzzle you mention confirms why. Both the barrel pin and the barrel itself are supposed to be a rather tight press fit, so that they do not come out and the barrel does not wobble around under the pressures of firing and cycling. Specific tooling is made to use with a hydraulic press to push out the pin and the barrel without the gun jumping around or damaging the gun or barrel from the pressure on the various unevenly shaped parts. This tooling also is useful because since you're not so concerned with damaging the parts, you can concentrate on them being properly lined up as they are installed. While I haven't asked around, I imagine that some here do indeed remove the barrel when working on these guns. I do not. I don't have the tooling for that, but my other tooling means I don't have to remove the barrel to get the work done that I need to do. Honing the barrel/trunnion to where you can push it in by hand or by lightly tapping it in with a hammer will leave it too loose, and the gun will not last long. It may even kill you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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