Spanky8834 0 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Hello everyone. I got my first Saiga about a month ago and have already converted it. The last big thing I want to do to it is add a '74 muzzle brake/new FSB to it. When I first got the rifle I did not know how labor intensive it would be to remove the FSB and install a new one. I really dont have the tools, or really the know how to do it (yes I have read online toutorials, I am just not comfortable). I watched a Youtube video of a guy who simply drilled into the dimples a ways and then was able to smack the FSB off with a mallet, but everywhere else I have read says you need a press, which I do not have, nor do I have access to. I was thinking about just using a pipe cutter and cutting the sleeve off and then threading the barrel (if I need to) and installing one, but I would really rather just go all the way and get the new FSB along with brake. My question is is the brake really worth all the effort? I know it helps with recoil, but I think the recoil is soft enough already. The only other reason I would do it is because I love the look of it. Any insight would be great, or if anyone knows of a place in the Southern California area that might be able to do it, that would be great to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutchsaiga 93 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) From what I've seen you really do not need a press for the FSB. Quite a few people have made a horizontal cut with a dremel downthe fsb. Broken in two prices with a chisel and pounded on a new one without use of a press. That's what I plan to do. Although I do have access to a press if need be. I also hear that the '74 brake is very functional at reducing muzzle flip and flash. The recoil isn't bad with the 7.62 but follow up shots would e much easier for me with less muzzle flip. I just need to find a place to get a cheap '74 FSB because I am certainly not paying 90 bucks for one from Danzig, but I can't seem to find any surplus bulgy ones. Edited September 27, 2011 by hutchsaiga Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joek4061 6 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 The brake is there to control muzzle flip. The end of an AK barrel has a tendency to rise up and over to the right when the rifle is fired. A muzzle brake will help compensate for this movement. It becomes a big factor with follow up shots. In my opinion it is possibly the best thing you can do for an AK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) The '74-type brake enables your rifle to do shit like this: More importantly; the '74-type greatly reduces muzzle rise, (and felt recoil, not that there's much to begin with), and the faster you fire, the more noticable the effect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBMm4tsPi18 Edited September 27, 2011 by post-apocalyptic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spanky8834 0 Posted September 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 I didn't even think about cutting horizontally down the FSB and breaking it off that way. My biggest worry with that would be accidently cutting into te barrel. Seems like it would be the easiest way to do it though. What would you pound one back on with? I'm guessing a rubber mallet?? Apocalyptic, nice pic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joek4061 6 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Go slow and you will be alright. You can nick the barrel a little bit it is not the end of the world. As far as putting the new FSB on............ a BFH along side a 2x4 works well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BLSSIMMONS 15 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Hello everyone. I got my first Saiga about a month ago and have already converted it. The last big thing I want to do to it is add a '74 muzzle brake/new FSB to it. When I first got the rifle I did not know how labor intensive it would be to remove the FSB and install a new one. I really dont have the tools, or really the know how to do it (yes I have read online toutorials, I am just not comfortable). I watched a Youtube video of a guy who simply drilled into the dimples a ways and then was able to smack the FSB off with a mallet, but everywhere else I have read says you need a press, which I do not have, nor do I have access to. I was thinking about just using a pipe cutter and cutting the sleeve off and then threading the barrel (if I need to) and installing one, but I would really rather just go all the way and get the new FSB along with brake. My question is is the brake really worth all the effort? I know it helps with recoil, but I think the recoil is soft enough already. The only other reason I would do it is because I love the look of it. Any insight would be great, or if anyone knows of a place in the Southern California area that might be able to do it, that would be great to. Yes it is worth it..... Edited September 27, 2011 by THE AK DUDE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spanky8834 0 Posted September 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Thanks everyone for the replies. Looks like I'll be adding a muzzle brake in the near future Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spanky8834 0 Posted September 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Well, I just ordered the new FSB and muzzle brake from Dinzag. I will also be buying drill press to help in drilling the new holes for the pins. Hopefully I dont screw anything up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutchsaiga 93 Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Best of luck. If you don't mind post some pics as you go. I'm going to do this soon and like to see pics of other people work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keith524 25 Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 ok i just did this last month,, if u dont want to pay 40 bucks for the one inch of muzzle threads on ur brake which the only one i could find was dinzags and took 3 weeks.. u will only want to cut back so far when takeing the shroud off. look it up on here and u will find it, i cut mine all the way back and threaded it myself which turned out beautiful but i had the get the brake with one inch of threads... and also when ur cutting ur shroud off just take a dremel and cutoff wheel and go long ways as far back as u want to go and a pipe cutter to cut the other way,, u will just have to gauge the depth off the end of ur barrel./.. believe me its not hard to do... just go a little at a time when u think ur close. and take it to ur vise and take a cold chisel and knock that sucker off. its really gooing to take some force.. no baby hits.. believe me it will take some solid hits but u wont hurt anything at all... and continue with the threading.. i cant tell u where to get ur die at but dont go to wholesaletools bc there 6 months back up.. any questions just pm me bud.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spanky8834 0 Posted September 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Thank you Keith for the advice. I planned on being a pain to get off. I think I will be ok. Hutch, I'll post pics as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keith524 25 Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 yup no prob man., ppl on the forum helped me so i will pass on the knowledge.. also check out my duracoat forum that i posted. pics of my rifle.. its on this forum 7.62 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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