haugpatr 972 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I have for sale Czech surplus ammo from 1953. I have cut a bullet apart and guarantee this is steel core. It comes loaded on 8rd stripper clips, with 5 clips/box(40rds/box). I fired a box of this ammo out of my CZ-52 and all rounds fired. Three rounds had to be run a second time(it may be the gun as the gun is new to me, came with this ammo), that being said, I beleive it was originally sub-gun ammo, as evidenced by stripper clips, so the primer does seem to be slightly harder than other ammo. The ammo did not seem to be any "hotter" than other surplus ammo. The only other price I could find on this was on Gun Broker, listed at $1/round, my ammo is exactly as pictured in that listing, I AM NOT THE PERSON WHO MADE THAT LISTING, http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=266800545 I am asking $32 for each box of 40 plus actual shipping. Currently 10++ boxes available although cross posted I will need to verify age of buyer IF YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BUY THIS DON"T ASK ME TO SELL IT TO YOU, I WILL CHECK Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Just to verify, as the pic is not terribly clear - is that a steel jacket under the copper jacket, or have you cut into the steel to verify it is solid? Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Just to verify, as the pic is not terribly clear - is that a steel jacket under the copper jacket, or have you cut into the steel to verify it is solid? +1 can you get a better pic? Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 It is a copper washed steel jacket and a steel core. I just cut another with the dremel, and sparks where flying off the steel core. Link to post Share on other sites
bigj480 203 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Looks like the core was pinched pretty easily, perhaps with pliers, can you cut through it with a pair of dykes? Edited January 20, 2012 by bigj480 Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Mild steel or hardened steel? It seemed pretty tough to me, when I was removing the core from the bullet, I was pulling on that edge cut into it and it didn't bend back. Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Looks like the core was pinched pretty easily, perhaps with pliers, can you cut through it with a pair of dykes? Tough crowd I don't know what to say to your comment, when I was removing the core, I gripped with my pliers right where the notch was cut and it did not bend! I tried to cut it in half with the tool in the picture, used both hands, I'm not Chuck Norris, but I have been single a long time, I was only able to make a very small dent, too small to show up in a picture. How about this, I'll call NASA tomorrow and see if they can test it in outer space for you. I have been as honest as I possibly can with my description and pics, please don't imply things that make me look dishonest. Read the GB listing and maybe contact that guy it appears he did some testing of his own. Edited January 20, 2012 by HOG76 Link to post Share on other sites
thx1971 1 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Is it corrosive ? Link to post Share on other sites
bigj480 203 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) I have been as honest as I possibly can with my description and pics, please don't imply things that make me look dishonest. I'm sorry you are a bit sensitive, I was not implying anything, it was a question. Good luck with your sale. Edited January 20, 2012 by bigj480 Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Is it corrosive ? I am pretty sure it is corrosive, I treat it as if it is. I have just assumed that since it is surplus from the early 50's it must be. Someday I am going to reload some of this in brass. I have been as honest as I possibly can with my description and pics, please don't imply things that make me look dishonest. I'm sorry you are a bit sensitive, I was not implying anything, it was a question. Good luck with your sale. No big deal, I just was frustrated that I stated that the core didn't bend and you said it looked like it bent easily. Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) It's definitely corrosive. I hope you don't take the questions offensively. It is all too common for steel-jacketed ammunition to be mistaken for steel-core, and there was absolutely no intent to imply that you might be misleading anyone. Clearly you are selling legit steel-core ammo. Some of the rounds required a second strike because the primers used in 50s Czech ammunition were stupidly hard. I bought a ton of this stuff when it was still cheap, mostly normal lead-core FMJ, a few boxes of steel-core. Definitely delivers considerable felt recoil compared to Yugoslavian, Romanian and Polish surplus. That's a fun find - good luck with your sale! Edited January 20, 2012 by Shandlanos Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 It's definitely corrosive. I hope you don't take the questions offensively. It is all too common for steel-jacketed ammunition to be mistaken for steel-core, and there was absolutely no intent to imply that you might be misleading anyone. Clearly you are selling legit steel-core ammo. Some of the rounds required a second strike because the primers used in 50s Czech ammunition were stupidly hard. I bought a ton of this stuff when it was still cheap, mostly normal lead-core FMJ, a few boxes of steel-core. Definitely delivers considerable felt recoil compared to Yugoslavian, Romanian and Polish surplus. That's a fun find - good luck with your sale! I only took offense to the one comment, I recently bought some ammo that someone said was steel core and it turned out to be steel jacket, I completely understand the questions. Link to post Share on other sites
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