theorangeplanet 968 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I'm looking to get a 7.62 this weekend and I'm hoping someone can give me a crash course on cheap ammo and answer some questions. I know the basics of bear colors, what surplus is corrosive and not. I know that the FMJBT gold tiger is supposed to be especially accurate. Did anyone ever run down on what has new production Sapsan 8m3 bullets for sure? 124 grain Uly or Tula HPs?? How do the other hollowpoints perform? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pjj342 632 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) In my experience, the hps perform a bit better than the fmjs. In my rifle anyways. It seem like my saiga with the dinzag bullet guide likes the shorter cartriges. Every once in a while I will get jammed up with an fmj or sp, but never an hp. I have been 100percent with every hp ive put thru it. I have checked out the tula 124hps, and they are not sapsons. If you cant get the sapsons, most any hp cartrige is good, (it seems to me). At least they are reliable and have a decent chance of expansion. I cant tell you what new production is using the 8m3 bullet. The ones I have are labeled 'sapson' and the wolf military classic. when I looked at the two headstamps, they were exactly the same. I was happily surprised. Honestly man, if I was buying bulk, I would either get golden tiger fmj (for accuracy) or any other hp, especially if I knew they were loaded with the 8m3's. I am partial to the hps though. Edited February 6, 2012 by Boomsick42 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buddykermit 16 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) hollows kept jamming (wolf) in my draco the only time I ran them - ending up in me almost getting into a fist fight with the range officer and hostile situation at knob creek gun range lol. long story but I only run fmj now. the bullets were seated all visibly different. i just ordered 1k rounds of KSAP from aim for 190 which if they go boom most of the time ill be happy. get you some lapua x39 ammo if you're planning on sniping..... Edited February 6, 2012 by buddykermit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutchsaiga 93 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 In my experience, the hps perform a bit better than the fmjs. In my rifle anyways. It seem like my saiga with the dinzag bullet guide likes the shorter cartriges. Every once in a while I will get jammed up with an fmj or sp, but never an hp. I have been 100percent with every hp ive put thru it. I have checked out the tula 124hps, and they are not sapsons. If you cant get the sapsons, most any hp cartrige is good, (it seems to me). At least they are reliable and have a decent chance of expansion. I cant tell you what new production is using the 8m3 bullet. The ones I have are labeled 'sapson' and the wolf military classic. when I looked at the two headstamps, they were exactly the same. I was happily surprised. Honestly man, if I was buying bulk, I would either get golden tiger fmj (for accuracy) or any other hp, especially if I knew they were loaded with the 8m3's. I am partial to the hps though. If your rifle is occasionally jamming with Fmj. Either your mags arnt fitting correctly or your bullet guide is positioned wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dust feeder 2 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Boomstick - what's that headstamp (no, not the 7.62x39, the other one on the bottom)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keith524 25 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 the batch of tulla 124g hp i got are the sapsan 8m3, or at least is exactly the same as the old wolf mc. they do have the ridges on the inside of the hp... i ordered 1000 more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike U. 51 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 ^^^^That.^^^^ Tulammo, 124 gr. HP, has the 8M3 bullet. At least the 500 rds. I bought have them. Be careful, though. Tulammo also has a 122 gr. HP that DO NOT have the 8M3 round, (from what I've read). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Eagle 839 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Most modern production will be non-corrosive. The only one left out there I know is corrosive is the Yugo M67 FMJ. Of all the surplus, Yugo is the most accurate. I have 3 cases on standby for the zombies....lol. This is a target I shot with my Chicom SKS, 40 rounds as fast as I could fire/reload for a test on another forum. First 5 were low and all over the place, but not bad shooting at a 12" square at 100 yards offhand with a center hold(black line was painted for reference). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pjj342 632 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Boomstick - what's that headstamp (no, not the 7.62x39, the other one on the bottom)? Im not exactly sure what its called or which russian factory its from, its kinda like a pepsi symbol with an arrow on each side. All I know, is that its the same headstamp that is on the wolf MC with the sapsons. I have had the sapson 'brand' ammo, which is in the pic above. I just picked up a few boxes of the wolf military classic at a gun show. To my surprise, same headstamp, and same red sealant around the primer and bullet. After looking at the bullets themselves, definately 8m3's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tchick 52 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) I picked up some 7.62x39 ammo from Academy Sports today. Monarch brand, 123 gr, FMJ, Steel case and laquer coated. $4.99/box of 20. Anyone have experience with this ammo? Apparently they sell quite a bit of it so somebody's using it. Edited February 21, 2012 by tchick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gh()st 3 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 The Academy stuff is Barnaul manuf/contracted specifically for their stores. IIRC it's essentially Brown Bear. (same load, casing, and projectile). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fflincher 8 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Share Posted February 21, 2012 Just a bit off subject, the Monarch 9 X 18 stuff is really ACCURATE in my Makarovs. I shoot a lot of cheap Silver Bear hollowpoint for practice, but compared to that, the Monarch is target ammo, up to the accuracy levels of CCI and Bernal hollowpoints in that caliber. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tchick 52 Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 The Monarch ammo at Academy is the cheapest stuff I can find locally. I'll give it a try and see how it does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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