mancat 2,366 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Just saw this post on Truth About Guns. At SHOT show, Kalashnikov USA unveiled a prototype modernized AK, as well as what appears to be a genuine US-made Vityaz. So either they managed to import some of the Saiga-9 sporters that were produced by Izhmash before EO, or they really do have Russian spec blueprints & tooling to produce these. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/01/foghorn/new-from-kalashnikov-alfa-rifle-american-9mm-ak Edited January 19, 2016 by mancat 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Where do I send my money? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Their updated AK/AR looking thing looks good to me too, from the outside at least. More options =more better. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,067 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Well fuck. *checks bank account* 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XdamagedX 248 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I wonder what magazine platform they're considering. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) From talk over on the AKFiles, it uses actual Vityaz magazines. Hopefully they end up using MP5 mags instead, solely for the availability and price. I'll have one in my possession, if it's true to form. After Atlantic and Difinitive Arms botched their collaboration and Volk Armament being unreliable (as a business) and sketchy with peoples money, I'm looking forward to this one. Third times the charm? AKFiles link... http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249888 Edited January 22, 2016 by Mullet Man 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) First half about the 9mms. Second half about the Alfa 21st century AKs and the 12ga. I'm starting to take kusa MUCH more seriously. Edited January 23, 2016 by Darth Saigus 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 RE the magazines. Same as any other 9mm, I wish they would just do the obvious: The magwell is plastic. It could have two push pins to swap out for another magwell. This could allow it to work with the pistol mag of your choice or some existing and available subgun mag. Anything less than that is crap. Half the joy of a subgun/ pistol cal carbine is shared mags, and cheap shooting. Making a $1000 + semi auto with a heavy blowback bolt jostling around that is not even +p rated that uses expensive mags you can't find is a waste of time. They limit their market severely when they pull that. I'm not a glock fanboy, but if they really wanted to open their market and could only afford to use one mag, that would be the choice that would net the most buyers. Two guns that have an overhyped reputation for reliability. I can see they hyperbole already. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,366 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Vityaz mags look VERY close to MP5 mags, I would not be surprised if MP5 mags can be modified to fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Alpha is VERY interesting! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Vityaz mags look VERY close to MP5 mags, I would not be surprised if MP5 mags can be modified to fit. That could be a plus. But I hope they realize using MP5 mags from the get go, is the best option for the consumer. But they'll probably keep with Vityaz mags to monopolize the market and corner the price. $90-120 Molot V12 mags as an example. Edited January 23, 2016 by Mullet Man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 AKOU visits the kusa booth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 ALFA does nothing for me. Bring on the 9mm! So glad I didn't send any money to Volk back in August. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scattergun10 125 Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 I'm a little late to the party on this one. So,is this basically like a US made civilian version of a Russian Bizon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 I'm a little late to the party on this one. So,is this basically like a US made civilian version of a Russian Bizon? Vityaz/Saiga9, not Bizon. Bizon is a completely different magazine design. No idea how US made they are going to be. I just hope they are direct copies of the Vityaz/Saiga9 or imports of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 I'm an absolute sucker for anything that shoots x39. I'm interested to learn more about the Alfa. Maybe it's plastic crap wrapped around an AK. Maybe it's something more. I'll ride the fence until we know more. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Machinist 150 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Blah blah blah...What about the 2015 release,didn't happen. Is this this the quad mag gun? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Blah blah blah...What about the 2015 release,didn't happen. Is this this the quad mag gun? It's actually the Ocho mag gun. Quad mag gun is so first decade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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