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Shot my s-12 for the first time, got a few questions


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Overall, very cool. Less recoil than I thought, and it handled really well. I have two questions. First of all, I fired about 100 shells, all 2-3/4. About 80 were lighter loads, 7-1/2 1-1/8oz. About 20 were some hotter #4. With the federal 7-1/2 I had 4 malfunctions.

 

One was like this, hung up at the arrow (the real one was deformed a bit)..

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3 were like this..

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I had it set on 1, based upon what I read in the FAQ, to see if everything would work on that setting. Are the stovepipes typical of light loads on a #1 setting? If so, not a problem, I'll just have to change settings or deal with it. I'm hoping the FTF was just a fluke, it only happened once.

 

Next, the patterns seemed bigger than I would have thought. Is this just because its smaller shot? I paced off about 20-25 yards, and the 4 shot hit all over the cardboard (like 3-3.5 ft wide). At about 7-8 yards it was still probably like 16 inches. The barrel is a 19 that was cut down to about 18.2 AFAIK. Any thoughts? Its eventually probably going to get some 2-3/4 00 loads for HD, but wally world didnt have anything bigger than 4 so I couldnt try any larger shot.

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A <20" barrel will probably need the gas ports opened a bit to ensure that it cycles lighter loads.

 

The open pattern will be typical of light shot, but some chokes can help you tune it to what you want. Chokes supposedly also help build pressure and improve cycling.

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Any idea on how many rounds thru it? I'd clean it up and run it a bit before I drilled ports.

 

I've had those FTF's before. They went away after cleaning and shooting.

 

I cut the end of my bbl just a bit at a time, I was trying to cut back to a "mod" choke. I noticed that the choke/constriction was at the VERY end of the bbl (not a gradual thing). I could run my little finger down the bbl and feel the "shelf" (not that sharp, but you get my idea).

 

As you clean it up, don' forget to remove the gas "tappet" or piston, or whatever we are calling it. Mickporno tells a pretty funny story about how gunked up he had one get.

 

 

Let us know how it goes.

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How do you like Your Kobra scope? Does the top wind adjustment knob obstruct your view through the lens or do you see the full 360 degreee view?

I've used kobras for awhile now on rifles, and I really like them. The only problem is they bring your head up a bit, so cheek weld suffers. I tried in on the s-12 and its less of a problem. It didnt seem too much different from the ghost ring sights though, because everything was so close, and the shot is a couple feet wide, but on a rifle they are a LOT faster than irons.

 

Its used with both eyes open, so you see a full 180 degrees, or whatever your eyes can see. Like I said, its just a question of how high you have to raise your head to get over the turret. Once you see the ret, with both eyes open, its like a laser out to infinity.

 

Any idea on how many rounds thru it? I'd clean it up and run it a bit before I drilled ports.

No idea on how many rounds. It already, after 100 rounds, shows way more wear then when I got it so I'm thinking it didnt have much through it at all. (unless tonys refinish included the inside)

 

I'll try the number two setting before I considered anything like drilling the ports. I was just wondering if stovepipes like that may be indicative of something else, or if they were just because of light loads on setting #1.

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The reason the rear sight insert fell out, is because Krebs does not install the retaining set screw in the bottom when they ship them. They all end up like that, if you don't install a screw before knocking the sight into place.

Yeah, I can see where the screw is supposed to be and theres nothing there. I assume I can get a replacement from krebs, I just wonder how tough it would be to remove and reinstall the sight. Maybe that green loctite would be the way to go?

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