Flashbang 34 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Here goes..... Gun stripped and placed on a towel covered coffee table Rigid Cobalt 3/16" bit and a Bosch corded drill to remove the 2 side rivets...5 minutes The bits zipped through the rivets like they were made of paper...awesome Removed shepherds crook and lightly pushed on remaining 2 pins with a punch Inner workings removed Dremmel with aluminum oxide cylinder grinding bit (orange in color) to slightly flatten trigger guard rivets...10 Minutes Same drill and 3/16" bit to remove rivets...5 minutes Notes: I will not be reusing the triggerguard, so it is still attached to the plate. No sparks from using aluminum oxide grinding bit. Rigid drill bits did not need me to dimple the rivets before drilling, they started without any wandering on the slightly flattened rivets. Just waiting for my delivery of my conversion parts...sometime today. While waiting, I will paint the bottom of the receiver with Rust-Oleum High Heat Engine Paint (gas and oil resistant / flat black) This is easier than trying to level and hang a shelf....if you had any doubts, just forget it and do this! Gonna' have a cigarette as I await my delivery....the hardest part so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fxhart 14 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 This is easier than trying to level and hang a shelf....if you had any doubts, just forget it and do this! This is the conclusion everyone has after they do it. Good job! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flashbang 34 Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 At around 1400 hrs the parts arrived....opened the package and dropped them in. Didnt work...guess I need to use pins or something because just dropping them into the receiver turned my gun into a rattle....JK, lol. Sat in front of the computer with the trigger installation video on the CSS website. Took less than 10 minutes. Conversion complete. Note: If you get the Tapco G2 trigger group you will reuse the original disconnector spring. I couldnt tap the roll pin out to get to the spring from my original parts (working on a coffee table with no vise), so I just used a cutoff wheel to cut the pin and seperate the peices. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dlcjr1973 24 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Flashbang, The rule around here seems to be that until we see pics, it didn't happen! Regards, Sapper 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flashbang 34 Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Flashbang, The rule around here seems to be that until we see pics, it didn't happen! Regards, Sapper Lol....here you go.....sorry about the quality...camera phone pic... Before and after... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dlcjr1973 24 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Good Job! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigafreake 27 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 looks good congrats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paprotective 362 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Did you do the TG rivets from the inside or the outside?? I did mine inseid but it was tight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flashbang 34 Posted September 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 (edited) Did you do the TG rivets from the inside or the outside?? I did mine inseid but it was tight. Removed mine from the outside since I had no intention of keeping the original TG. Funny thing is, I didn't even nick the paint on it...could have re-used it if I wanted too. Replaced the factory TG with a bolt on replacement(RAM STG) from CSS. It's a nice add-on, the TG has threaded holes and comes with 2 little screws to screw it in place through the receiver. Edited September 24, 2009 by Flashbang Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flashbang 34 Posted September 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Good Job! looks good congrats. Thanks. Now I'm just waiting on my MSA mag adapter. I have been studying the receiver and I think I can do the fitting myself with a Dremmel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
underpaidslave 2 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 (edited) is that the same stock/grip from the first picture? i looked closer the grip is different but is the stock? Edited October 6, 2009 by underpaidslave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flashbang 34 Posted October 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 is that the same stock/grip from the first picture? i looked closer the grip is different but is the stock? I used the same Tapco T6 stock I had on before the conversion. The grip is the same SAW style, but a different one to fit the post conversion rifle. The one that came with the T6 stock originally will not fit after the conversion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Here goes..... Gun stripped and placed on a towel covered coffee table Rigid Cobalt 3/16" bit and a Bosch corded drill to remove the 2 side rivets...5 minutes The bits zipped through the rivets like they were made of paper...awesome Removed shepherds crook and lightly pushed on remaining 2 pins with a punch Inner workings removed Dremmel with aluminum oxide cylinder grinding bit (orange in color) to slightly flatten trigger guard rivets...10 Minutes Same drill and 3/16" bit to remove rivets...5 minutes Notes: I will not be reusing the triggerguard, so it is still attached to the plate. No sparks from using aluminum oxide grinding bit. Rigid drill bits did not need me to dimple the rivets before drilling, they started without any wandering on the slightly flattened rivets. Just waiting for my delivery of my conversion parts...sometime today. While waiting, I will paint the bottom of the receiver with Rust-Oleum High Heat Engine Paint (gas and oil resistant / flat black) This is easier than trying to level and hang a shelf....if you had any doubts, just forget it and do this! Gonna' have a cigarette as I await my delivery....the hardest part so far. Nice job. What took you less than an hour took me weeks of on-and-off effort. When people say this is "easy", they mean it is easy for someone who is adept with tools. With people like me who are inexperienced with most of these tools and frightened about making a fatal screw-up, the first conversion is not easy, but it is doable. I'm picking up a 5.45 for my wife today, and am not the least bit daunted about the prospect of converting this second one. Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
underpaidslave 2 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 is that the same stock/grip from the first picture? i looked closer the grip is different but is the stock? I used the same Tapco T6 stock I had on before the conversion. The grip is the same SAW style, but a different one to fit the post conversion rifle. The one that came with the T6 stock originally will not fit after the conversion. cool one less part i need to buy, well right away anyways.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flashbang 34 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Here goes..... Gun stripped and placed on a towel covered coffee table Rigid Cobalt 3/16" bit and a Bosch corded drill to remove the 2 side rivets...5 minutes The bits zipped through the rivets like they were made of paper...awesome Removed shepherds crook and lightly pushed on remaining 2 pins with a punch Inner workings removed Dremmel with aluminum oxide cylinder grinding bit (orange in color) to slightly flatten trigger guard rivets...10 Minutes Same drill and 3/16" bit to remove rivets...5 minutes Notes: I will not be reusing the triggerguard, so it is still attached to the plate. No sparks from using aluminum oxide grinding bit. Rigid drill bits did not need me to dimple the rivets before drilling, they started without any wandering on the slightly flattened rivets. Just waiting for my delivery of my conversion parts...sometime today. While waiting, I will paint the bottom of the receiver with Rust-Oleum High Heat Engine Paint (gas and oil resistant / flat black) This is easier than trying to level and hang a shelf....if you had any doubts, just forget it and do this! Gonna' have a cigarette as I await my delivery....the hardest part so far. Nice job. What took you less than an hour took me weeks of on-and-off effort. When people say this is "easy", they mean it is easy for someone who is adept with tools. With people like me who are inexperienced with most of these tools and frightened about making a fatal screw-up, the first conversion is not easy, but it is doable. I'm picking up a 5.45 for my wife today, and am not the least bit daunted about the prospect of converting this second one. Jim Good point. I am kinda' handy with tools. As for screwing up the gun....if I couldn't convert it I would not have been happy with it in its factory set up...so I had no problem throwing caution to the wind. Besides that, its an AK design...it will take just about any sort of abuse....even reckless abandon witha dremel. Any problems with your next conversion, drop me a line...I'll be glad to help you out. FYI, the retaining plate is awesome...hold it all together and is easy to install. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flashbang 34 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 is that the same stock/grip from the first picture? i looked closer the grip is different but is the stock? I used the same Tapco T6 stock I had on before the conversion. The grip is the same SAW style, but a different one to fit the post conversion rifle. The one that came with the T6 stock originally will not fit after the conversion. cool one less part i need to buy, well right away anyways.. It will do its job for now. I am just debating between the ACE and Tromix skeleton stocks at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewH 1 Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Do most guns already have the grip nut hole in the receiver already? I had to cut mine but didnt notice you list that step. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flashbang 34 Posted October 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Do most guns already have the grip nut hole in the receiver already? I had to cut mine but didnt notice you list that step. Which Saiga do you have...mine was a .223 with the hole already cut. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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