ezekiel86 0 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) http://www.mississip...ston-p-888.html with the twisterpuc which level are you supposed to use for low brass birdshot and the occasional high brass? and also if its something that is a must or not? thanks in advance and also, has anyone ever ran one of these? http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/saiga-12-aka-auto-gas-plug-black-p-1531.html thanks Edited October 4, 2010 by ezekiel86 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
physicsnerd 139 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I bought the standard TwisterPuc for my S12. It works just fine with low brass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ezekiel86 0 Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I bought the standard TwisterPuc for my S12. It works just fine with low brass. I was just wondering if i would buy the standard and wanted to shoot slugs if it can handle them or i should just put my factory plug back in it? thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobbyshooter 59 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 It'll be fine with slugs. I found the standard twister puck reduced the power vs my factory puck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ezekiel86 0 Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 It'll be fine with slugs. I found the standard twister puck reduced the power vs my factory puck. what do you mean by power? thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chowderhead72 13 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Are you buying a puck so you can be 922r compliant? If so by all means... If you are buying a new puck for improvement save your money. The improvement that a puck makes is negligible at best and in many cases worse than stock. If you are looking to diversify the loads your gun will shoot look into a better gas plug or if you are satisfied leave that section alone. I am fine with my stock gas plug and puck but if I just had to buy one it would be the MD arms V-plug or it's predecessor the gunfixer plug. The best part about any of the plugs is the ability to adjust the plug to different settings with out struggle or tools. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobbyshooter 59 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 It'll be fine with slugs. I found the standard twister puck reduced the power vs my factory puck. what do you mean by power? thanks Meaning I ported my barrel and the gun ran federal bulk pack bird shot with the factory puck but stove piped 100% with the twister puck. I quickly concluded the slightly smaller diameter of the twister puck allowed more gas to blow past the puck into the receiver, reducing the energy applied to the puck face, lowering the "power" on the gas system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ezekiel86 0 Posted October 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Are you buying a puck so you can be 922r compliant? If so by all means... If you are buying a new puck for improvement save your money. The improvement that a puck makes is negligible at best and in many cases worse than stock. If you are looking to diversify the loads your gun will shoot look into a better gas plug or if you are satisfied leave that section alone. I am fine with my stock gas plug and puck but if I just had to buy one it would be the MD arms V-plug or it's predecessor the gunfixer plug. The best part about any of the plugs is the ability to adjust the plug to different settings with out struggle or tools. i was gonna buy the puck for the cleaning properties it supposedly has and to be 922r compliant for the future,, that MDarms v-plug definitely has its advantages because of the multiple settings, thanks ill be probably getting one of those friday Quote Link to post Share on other sites
physicsnerd 139 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I bought the standard TwisterPuc for my S12. It works just fine with low brass. I was just wondering if i would buy the standard and wanted to shoot slugs if it can handle them or i should just put my factory plug back in it? thanks Yup, it'll be fine with slugs. I've shot 3" magnum slugs, 2.75" slugs, buck and low brass all with the Twister standard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jcmacconnell 25 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 I have the standard and primarily shoot high brass 00 buck. Not sure if it helps cycling however I do like the cleaning aspect of the puck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TARE 47 Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Is it safe to say the the general consensus is that the standard twister puck lowers gas pressure, in other words does everyone agree with hobby shooter? Does anyone have experience that leads you to believe that the twister plugs does as advertised and keeps your gas system cleaner? It seems likely from an physics standpoint as it pretty much drills and scrapes the carbon from the gas block walls Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobbyshooter 59 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Is it safe to say the the general consensus is that the standard twister puck lowers gas pressure, in other words does everyone agree with hobby shooter? Does anyone have experience that leads you to believe that the twister plugs does as advertised and keeps your gas system cleaner? It seems likely from an physics standpoint as it pretty much drills and scrapes the carbon from the gas block walls http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=58124&st=0&p=550141&hl=+twister%20+puck&fromsearch=1entry550141 Not everyone agrees. It's nearly split between no difference, and reduces pressure. Last time I cleaned the gas system I noticed some gunk cooked onto the gas cylinder wall and the factory puck was dragging pretty good on it. I popped that out and stuck the twister puck in and it wouldn't drag. Meaning the twister puck has a smaller diameter than my factory puck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shadoh 16 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I have the standard twister puck in my gun. I would think the idea behind the grooves is that it causes the puck to twist (hence the name) and the grooves clean the chamber. My experience however is that the puck does not twist at all in my gun. When I remove the plug the mark from the puck hitting the bolt is always in the same place. If it was turning it would move around the face of the puck evenly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TARE 47 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Thanks for the responses. I'm still trying to get my gun 100% and I've been running the standard twister puck and have been getting FTEs after Ding the gas block and polishing the parts that you are supposed to in this situation, I'll try the standard puck and tell you all if it changes anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Thanks for the responses. I'm still trying to get my gun 100% and I've been running the standard twister puck and have been getting FTEs after Ding the gas block and polishing the parts that you are supposed to in this situation, I'll try the standard puck and tell you all if it changes anything. Did you try a reduced power recoil spring? They do help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TARE 47 Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 I haven't tried the reduced power springs because I want to get the gun to function with a variety of ammo without changing parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 I haven't tried the reduced power springs because I want to get the gun to function with a variety of ammo without changing parts. The spring will run all 2 3/4" shells with the gas adjustment knob on the correct setting. 3" are the only shells you do not want to shoot with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TARE 47 Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 Is it common for people to swap out the factory spring for this? I thought with the correct modifications you could get a factory gun to run 100%, I will have to give the spring a try, but I worry a possible side effect could be failure to go into battery Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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