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If you see the guys in the red and black bolwing shirts, come by and introduce yourself. The whole FBMG crew will be there.

What is an 18" defender model and who promised it to you? The guns will be in our hands Monday between 10 and noon. We will get as many orders sorted and billed before we leave for SHOT, but with an order of this size, I dont know if we will even get them all sorted and recorded before we leave. Other distributors closer to them may be getting theirs today or tomorrow. We currently have NO MORE shotguns for dealers. All of the guns we have left are going to Tromix for conversions, and we just had to place a PO with another distributor at dealer price to get enough to last us thru the next

Ours arrive Monday between 10 and noon. Depending on the size of their order and how close they are, they could have thiers by tommorow. Keep in mind though that they will need to check inventory, record serial numbers and sort the orders before shipping them out. I can't believe how many people think that we will get them Monday, and they will go out Tuesday. Not on a shipment this size! In fact, they wll probably not even get sorted before we leave for the shot show. Please be patient with us all.

Yes we are. Pleasecuse the order form that is on the main page until we upload the shopping cart.

No, you are not reading that correctly. If you have an order in with us, we will get the guns this week. YOUR order is secure. But we just ordered nearly half again of what we ordered on our initial order, and that cleaned them out at RAAC. Those guns are all going to Tromix to be converted and the small supply we have allocated for dealer sales will be sitting here for our dealers to re-supply from. Based on our sales so far, we have enough to get us thru the next shipment, but just barely. If the Tromix conversions go aboslutely nuts, we may not.

And no, even if we had the last ones in stock we would not gouge you on price (like Robinson Arms did us on the Veprs).

I just got off the phone with RAAC. The shipment is on its to us, but we have sold all of our shotguns and just ordered the last ones they had in the warehouse (which wasn't many). There will be more coming on the next shipment, but that is a few weeks out.

We all know about price gouging. Paying $80+ for a 8rd mag that costs $5 in Russia is price gouging. We WILL NOT do that. That is shit, and we will not support anyone who buys them from us and then tries to gouge customers. I said it here in public, and you can hold me too it. In looking at the comments here, I think there is another issue. People all know that they can buy them from Z if I try to gouge them, so whats the big deal? I think the big deal is that people are worried that a big order from me or another dealer will delay Z from delivering the smaller orders to individual custome

Wel I am a businessman, and I understand that price gouging may get you some money in your pockets early, but someone will come along and offer the product at a reasonable price and then all the customers you gouged will be resentfull and bash you all over the net. THAT will kill your business. I also understand that taking care of your customers will pay much bigger rewards in the long term than a few high priced sales early on. And for every customer you take care of, they will tell their friends. And their friends will believe them over the dealer because the customer has ownership and

We have our tactical nylon made by a company in Idaho. They do great work. We also have a guy who will make custom kydex holders for us. All we need is the mag. What do you care? He sets retail, or MSRP and we sell them at that. I am not here to gouge anyone on anything. I am here to make money like any other businessman, and that means I do so by supplying my customers with what they want. And so far, the demand fo them is huge. If you want them, buy them from me, him or any other stocking dealer. I am anticipating that he will have several dealers, not just me, so you have plenty

Yeah, but I was serious. The response from them here has been out of control. We have a lot of lurkers in SLC that come here and have been following the threads. I can probably sell most of them in a month.

Check your PM's. If they retail for $50-75 bucks, we will take 200 mags. If you break it out into three colors, we would want 75 clear, 50 orange and 125 black.

Send it to me and I will get it out to Tony with ours. And I would trust his conversions over anyone else in the business. Edit to add, would anyone like a beta mag for the 308 gun?

Screw the pics! Give us mags! Pics are nice to jerk off to, but there is no substitution for the real thing.

I guess that depends on what you use it for and what you want in the gun. But the BHO guns are a ways out still. If you need a BHO, we can put in one for you and it is actually an improvement over the original. BTW, what is an exp-1-30? As for the prices of the guns, I guess people are trying to get as much out of them before the flood gets here this week. We had our old original and our conversion at the show here this weekend, the response at their immenent arrival and the price points were extremely good. Much to the dismay of the guy who was trying to make his retirement off o

We are supposed to take delivery of our the week of the 23rd.

And a single tear slowly, ever so slowly, trickles down my cheek.

We will have them on the auction sites, they have lots of traffic.

Let me re-phrase. We keep our retail prices at this point to protect our dealers. They do not have to worry about us under-cutting them on price. Saiga Central claims to do dealer sales, but makes it unprofitable for dealers to work with them. Which min the big picture does not benefit anyone but them. It really does not benefit you the customer let alone the exposeure for the weapon system as a whole. These weapons can fill a vast list of needs, not just the AK enthusists and gamers needs, which has been the primary source of sales for them in the past. Also, Saiga Central is not going to

Tromix has one that is an improvement over the original one for $65. If you have to have one, this is the one to get.

I spoke with Debbie, and it is SO FUCKING TYPICAL of the Russians to pull this dumb shit. Dont blame RAAC, thats for sure. They did not know they were not getting their full order until the saw them. The form 6 lists 12ga shotgun, or 308 rifle. The minor differences being things like the bolt hold open or sights out to 500m instead of 300m. The Russians told them what they wanted to hear and then sent them what was in the warehouse. Fucking typical. Anyway, we have updated what is coming on our web site (and added the other guns we had previously only ordered a few of like the IZ-108), and

There is a list of distributors on RAAC's web site. If you want the Tromix converted guns, give us a ring, we will be stocking them.

Maybe they will have them. RAAC says they ordered VERY little, but are counting on being able to sell off their web page and order as they go. Those that are ordering hundreds of guns may put a monkey wrench into that plan.

I got a call from RAAC, they have left the bonded warehouse and are in route to RAAC. We should have them by the week of the 23rd. If you ordered one and want the Tromix conversion, they will go to Tony within 3 days.

I got a call from RAAC, they have left the bonded warehouse and are in route to RAAC. We should have them by the week of the 23rd. If you ordered one and want the Tromix conversion, they will go to Tony within 3 days.