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And its the wrong one !!! Im sending it back!! I called and they said no prob we will switch it for you and get that right back out to you!!(k-var04)

Well I allready wanted a trijicon 3-9 scope for the rifle. A reflex sight would be best for the shotgun. I just got my scope mount from K-var Im going open as soon as I get home!!

All tho the regular stock give's the shotgun A more common grip and decent balance and swing!!!!

Nope not in the military, Im a skip tracer(suck's that they dont consider us LEO I could use the 50% dicsount ) And this stuff works well they will not be running away thats for sure!!!!

You would have to weld a plate over the spot for the stock tho

Needs a foreward grip (like the tacstar one) Looks much better without the stock, Perhaps I can get one as a A.O.W(whats the overall lenth)

Sorry it may cause a rash, and can be fatal (spraying a whole can close range 1-3 will cause severe breathing difficulty's and will\may require medical help and\or eye damage if not flushed with water and blah blah blah and the rest off the label go's on!!!!!

this is much worse by far At least you can walk out on two feet from the chamber, I had to crawl and I only got a short 1\2 second blast from 20 feet. That was very bad Idea that was 15% oc\cs!! That can above is 20%oc\cs and lasts a good 20 seconds till empty(same size),Yes that would suck very bad indoor's or close range. nice 25-35 foot \ 3 or 4 foot cone shaped pattern(Watch the wind all). Nice anti carjack device (if you dont mace yourself) . If it will stop a bear it will stop a junkie who wants your car!!and ten of his friend's too!!

What this wasnt short enough for you?

Why would you use a shotgun for less lethal anyway. IF a suspect is attacking you without a firearm or knife why would you need to blast em with beanbags and rubber buck( come on now thats why they give you a nightstick and mace) TBOtech.com 20% bear mace 35.oo a can and will take out a crowd (10-15 people or so) I know it works I used the 15% on myself and had to crawl to the shower couldnt see & tears, drool, flem, were all making it very hard to much of anything let alone put up a fight!!!!!! and 20 minutes(or so) in the shower and I was fine. I had to see if it worked and all

See what a good IDEA!!!

I kept the saiga 12 I still love it

Lets remember FPS you do need some barrel lenth!!! How's about 14" (dont forget the shell's 3")

Yes that wood stock would hurt smaller leo's (rubbin my collar bone right now )it kinda looks outa place probly add some heft to it too! K-varcorp has the bullpup kit for 230.oo$ right now, Im gunna get one! If its a LEO demo whats it matter about the pistol grip! with a 14" barrel the overall lenth would be(runnin for tape measure) 24" give or take a inch(stock pad,muzzle brake,recoil comp)

Hey I wonder what your muzzle FPS is? Hold on If you were trying to make it more compact Why didnt you try the bullpup idea!!!! Hoe long is the tactical sight thing past the end of the barrel? Its pinned right? or threaded?

crap I cant see the 7.62/25mm the saiga's nice woods gotta go tho(looking at my saiga now )put a big pic of the 51 so I can see!!Hey you wanna sell that yet?(it looks like the ppsh 41 right?)

Cant we say UPS?

I want the front sight and flash hider\muzzle brake & What ever clips you can bring (do they have UPS there? )Just send them to me Makc !!! Email me personaly!!!!!!!!!

shoulda made it 14" (And the muzzle thing was better flyn downrange) Cant see did you move your trigger group? A pachmayr slip on recoil pad would help alot!!!! Wait and get the tactical sight from marc!! would look nice (Im getting a digital camera soon)Well at least you gave me a idea!!!

Well it's done I orderd the mil. spec one from K-var and it should be here next week sometime I will order my sight next!!! hey did anyone try the pachmayer slip on black recoil pad? I like mine made a world of difference!!!!!not bad for 10.oo$$

I have seen up to 500 yards for a man sized target, I suppose the krink's outa the question huh!!! Hmm the RPK it is I have a 16.5 ak right now I think the 24 heavy barrel would make a better long range rifle, I will use my saiga 12 since it has deemed itself worthy, And my para 1911, IM not bad and in good shape I see no prob then usein the RPK ( I like it anyway) with good optics I sould have no probs

Im sorry but the is a old shotgun rule "dont use slugs in a full choke duh" if this will make you feel better cut a slug shell open(use the 'foster type")and try to insert it in the barrel muzzle first ------dosent' fit huh I myself would not shoot slug's outta mine! Why anyway??? do not use a shotgun for a rifle purpose- a shot gun is just that take advantage of the multi-projectiles remember A shotgun is a CQC weapon dont forget it!!! try some # 4 buck or steel shot BB (27 pellets for #4buck 48 pellets for #BB in a 2 3/4 shell )!!!!!!

I will buy your ppsh send me a picture what do you want for it?

There's a saying "you get what you pay for" Why would I mount a 200.oo sight on a 40.oo mount? seem's dumb!!

7.62\25mm is that like a ppsh? its a rifle no?vented hand guard woodstock. (I cant remember) 3 guns matchs have(most of the time) 1. a CQC pistol course 2. a CQC shotgun course 3. either a CQC or a long range rifle course So most of the time its a 4 gun match I want a krink too!!! I am not a real AR-15\M-16 fan but thats what every one use's I figured the rpk was a nice way to keep all my guns AK style(ar-15's tend to jam alot Ive had like 6 or 7 all different brands and I sold them all) with the execption of my 1911 .45 (sorry there's nothing better) Most 3 gun match's do have a c