mikey1 0 Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Any updates on the 10 rd."mags" from either builder/ testers?? It's difficult to wait w/NO info? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEFOZ 1 Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Any updates on the 10 rd."mags" from either builder/ testers?? It's difficult to wait w/NO info? NOBODYS talking to me thats a good sign I would guess that they are in early production trying to sort out bugs once they have produced enough mags to sell them at a resonable price and still payoff there invesment (plus some profit if there smart) they will release them onto the market they might also be buying up used saigas themselves knowing after the mags come out everyone will want one just do what I did sell your saiga 12 buy a saiga 223 and a mossburg 590 milpark with a copp stock send your rifle to tony and enjoy untill the new amunition feeding devices for s12 hit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Either that or everybody is just sick of waiting, and is being adult about it and just biding their time QUIETLY... Because honestly... its gotten to the point that people are just saying FUCK IT... when it happens it happens, and thats that... Personally, I could care if they NEVER get built... I cant have them, so they dont do me any good. LOL Thats one reason I wasnt answering... except to mention the above... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Dead stinking decaying horses should not be nudged. Ever peel a two or three day old dead mouse off the driveway that someone's cat left behind? That's what this thead smells like. PATIENCE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stugots 0 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Dead stinking decaying horses should not be nudged. Ever peel a two or three day old dead mouse off the driveway that someone's cat left behind? That's what this thead smells like. PATIENCE Hey I think that's the same smell as anchovies! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jsr5 0 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Anyone talk to RAA maybe they''d be willing to help push things along maybe even front some development monies) since it will greatly improve their products reception. I've been put on back order status and am frankly considering cancelling as I just don't want one if the mags aren't to be had for them and at a reasonable price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Anyone talk to RAA maybe they''d be willing to help push things along maybe even front some development monies) since it will greatly improve their products reception. I've been put on back order status and am frankly considering cancelling as I just don't want one if the mags aren't to be had for them and at a reasonable price. Don't think there is any reason to assume either concern at this point. Give 'em time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jman 0 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Well; I know from experience that when you have an expected release date on anything, you can expect it to be three to four times longer................ It's just the way R&D, Mfg., and business goes!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 I've been put on back order status and am frankly considering cancelling as I just don't want one if the mags aren't to be had for them and at a reasonable price. HONESTLY?!?!?!? You have got to be kidding me!!! I suppose its like anything else, though... I dont want a screwdriver, if I cant get 10" screws to use with it, or I wont buy the lawnmower, if I cant get the 10' mower deck to use on it... or I wont buy a car if I cant get a 10' wing to put on the trunk... I understand EXACTLY how you feel!!!! :up: Well, ok, maybe I dont... thats just DUMB... thats ok... dont buy one... dont buy a .308 either, they only have 8 round mags... no whining about those either... more guns for the rest of us! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PvtPyle 0 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 RAAC is busy with the next shipment of Saigas and other projects. What would throwing money at the project really do for them? Do the designers of the 10rd mags want anyone else to get in on the ground floor? I wouldn't! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 That's the main problem. Too many people think they can offer help or "PUSH" things along and the folks designing and making things will magically go faster. That is not the way it works. You can believe the guys working on ALL the new upcoming projects are already moving as fast as they can and no matter how impatient and bitchy everyone gets the best thing to do is just sit back and wait. I'm sure both Ian and Kevin now wish that they had not announced their plans to build these mags and just gone ahead and done it so they could have avoided all the whining and pestering they have had to endure while putting 100% of their enrgy into the projects. I know the feeling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeric 0 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 That's the main problem. Too many people think they can offer help or "PUSH" things along and the folks designing and making things will magically go faster. That is not the way it works. You can believe the guys working on ALL the new upcoming projects are already moving as fast as they can and no matter how impatient and bitchy everyone gets the best thing to do is just sit back and wait. I'm sure both Ian and Kevin now wish that they had not announced their plans to build these mags and just gone ahead and done it so they could have avoided all the whining and pestering they have had to endure while putting 100% of their enrgy into the projects. I know the feeling. +1 on that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AegisDei 2 Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Anyone talk to RAA maybe they''d be willing to help push things along maybe even front some development monies) since it will greatly improve their products reception. I've been put on back order status and am frankly considering cancelling as I just don't want one if the mags aren't to be had for them and at a reasonable price. Hrm...if the importer pushed a high capacity magazine it would probably negate the "sporter" configuration of the Saigas, they'd be declared DD, and a ton of people would be phucked. Additionally, if a high-cap magazine goes on a saiga that's not 922r compliant, I think it's a violation. So no, let's not encourage that. Let's leave it at "patience is the ultimate virtue." It'd be cool to get them, but we're not going to die without them and we have other things that we can be working on. Could somebody please explain what happened to 5rnd magazines? Are the new importers getting these, or just 4rnd magazines? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Patience guy's do you have any idea how hard it is to find a steady source of UNOBTAINUM g o b Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1Bigdog 1 Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Is there anyway to get on a list to buy 4 of these? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEFOZ 1 Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 (edited) Is there anyway to get on a list to buy 4 of these? Would you like your 4 unobtainum parts shipped directly to you or would you like them sent your work so your wife won't find out anyway yes http://www.saigasolutions.com/ Edited March 17, 2006 by NEFOZ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
expeditionx 1 Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 (edited) Additionally, if a high-cap magazine goes on a saiga that's not 922r compliant, I think it's a violation. The soupbowl ATF letter declared the Saiga12 to only have 13 foreign parts if you dont count in a pistol grip. The magazine is 3 parts. All original Saiga12 without a magazine = 10 parts. A factory original Saiga12 should be legal then with an American made 10 round magazine. http://www.concentric.net/~Ldrennan/page12.html Disregard the pisol grip counted because its not on an original Saiga12 therefore making the count 13 parts. Edited March 17, 2006 by expeditionx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoAim 0 Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Additionally, if a high-cap magazine goes on a saiga that's not 922r compliant, I think it's a violation. The soupbowl ATF letter declared the Saiga12 to only have 13 foreign parts if you dont count in a pistol grip. The magazine is 3 parts. All original Saiga12 without a magazine = 10 parts. A factory original Saiga12 should be legal then with an American made 10 round magazine. http://www.concentric.net/~Ldrennan/page12.html Disregard the pisol grip counted because its not on an original Saiga12 therefore making the count 13 parts. You don't have to worry about 922® if it's NFA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
expeditionx 1 Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 (edited) .. Edited March 17, 2006 by expeditionx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1Bigdog 1 Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Is there anyway to get on a list to buy 4 of these? Would you like your 4 unobtainum parts shipped directly to you or would you like them sent your work so your wife won't find out anyway yes http://www.saigasolutions.com/ Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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