csspecs 1,987 Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 What I want to know is at what point if any can a part be rebuilt through a process of re-machining. The point I want to come to is that if I take a lump of metal removed from the ground in china and turn it into a part that is fine, if I make the part from a piece of bar stock from china it is still ok. But what if I take the OEM part and put 10+ hours of work into it to make it work better, at what point can I say the part is no longer of the shelf or made in another country? I am not talking about rubbing a bit of steel wool on it, I am saying to lock it into a CNC machine and re-cut the edges, and then take many files to bring it to a perfect finish. I know many "MADE IN USA" items are made from blanks or unfinished parts from other countrys, so why not us? I am asking because a friend of mine got in quite some trouble from doing something very similar without being in the right zoning for a "manufacturer". He was taking something apart and cleaning the edges and it was called manufacturing, so can one do the same and be 922® complaint? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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csspecs 1,987 Posted May 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 What about blanks? I love all the double standards that uncle sam loves to impose on his subjects. You can be fined for manufacturing yet its not manufacturing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wakal 10 Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Really? The ATF considers drilling a hole in a receiver to be "manufacturing." The ATF also considers tying knots in a shoelace to be "manufacturing." The ATF also considers "sporterizing" a military bolt action rifle to be "manufacturing." And of course, if you customize a customer's gun "too much" (not further identified, naturally), then you are "manufacturing." Alex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greatmoose 4 Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Actually, I think I saw a letter on gunco from the ATF about reworked stocks, and if there's enough work, it can be marked US. I'll see if I can find it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted May 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Actually, I think I saw a letter on gunco from the ATF about reworked stocks, and if there's enough work, it can be marked US. I'll see if I can find it. It would be nice to know because I want to use the gun mostly stock but I can make the parts much better for free. I would buy new parts but I am only making a new stock (its not a PG either), but I would like to get something more for my time. If 40+ hours of work cleaning and reworking them a bit would also get me the ability to do what I want with my rifle that would be great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 As far as I know a part must be made completely in the US to be a considered a US made part from the beginning. Modified parts are considered foreign parts no matter how much work you put into them. Remember the BATF is NOT your friend. When a government agency says that a shoestring is a 'machine gun' then you have to beware of them. Read about that in JPFO's website. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
O.S.O.K. 0 Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 The easy answer is to look at what is offered for aftermarket sale. I am not aware of any imported part that is reworked and then sold as "made in the US". Personally, I like to have clearly marked items or receipts from suppliers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 The easy answer is to look at what is offered for aftermarket sale. I am not aware of any imported part that is reworked and then sold as "made in the US". Personally, I like to have clearly marked items or receipts from suppliers. I agree, I see many US compliance parts not marked made in US or the markings are painted on. I have some magazine floor plates and followers which say US but if I paint them the markings will disappear. Too bad they didn't stamp the steel instead of painting it on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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