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Looks good! The FBMG mags... I've got 7 of em - got em back when... I see you installed the BHO Thanks for posting the new pics - the phone ones were pretty bad... Have you had it to the range yet?

Classic arm also has em for $499 but Atlantic's a sponsor, so if they've got em in stock, that's the way.

sofageorge, the best long range bullets (for accuracy) are the super slick low drag bullets such as berger makes. The onese with the highest ballistic coeficients. The plastic tips such as Hornady Amax are also in that league. Used to be that all low drag type bullets were made with solid bases - with the opening a the nose, thus the hollowpoint - that's kinda outa date now... As to a Saiga .308 for 500 shots, my carbine has given me 1.5" groups at 100 yards with PSOP scope and a "random" handload. I am quite sure I can beat that with handloads taylored to this particular Saiga using a

Oh, I get around I'm on quite a few sites - haven't been too active on the 3pcter though - I figure that will get real active when the time comes..., but lets hope it doesn't come!

Wow, thought this looked familiar! Still say that the answer is a S308 with ammo it likes. I now have a 16" S308 that shoots 1.5" 100 groups with "general" handloads - not tuned to the rifle. That's plenty good for hits at 500 yards. No, not the best tool for the job - but as stated way long ago, that wasn't the OP's question now was it?

I didn't find it a turn-off - but I understand what you're saying. Its still a good referrence for the process. I found it very useful. ETA - watching it now - I definately like the pic at the stare

PG = pistol grip. You need the special nut for the screw. http://dpharms.com/ak47-kits-c-22.html Suggest reading this before you start if you haven't already: Saiga conversion tutorial (OK, so this is old - ancient history, don't let the use of end mill bits and such disuade you - not neccesary at all) - watching this conversion video right now and it seems good so far... I just cut the "tail" off of the trigger guard that came on mine - and bent it in a little - to fit. Here's a pic of mine:

Saiga conversion tutorial site Read the tutorial and decide for yourself. You will need some basic tools like a hand drill, drill bits, channel locks, etc.. I recommend a Dewalt or Ryobi 18v corldless - very handy to have. I'm fairly handy with stuff and this conversion was a breeze. Much easier than demiling and building an AK from a kit...

Well, if you're flinching.... thats probably the cause of your larger groups.... doncha think? I would suggest putting a slip-on recoil pad on there to help with that. Also, I don't know what trigger you have - this is a pg conversion, so you used something - I like my Red Star/ Power Customs trigger a lot - I have it adjusted to a clean-brake, single action and it makes accurate shooting much easier than a long or stagey trigger.

Second the recrown. Brownells sells a kit for not too much that cuts a 45 degree chamfer in your muzzle - the terminus of the rifling is what you need uniform and affects accuracy. You get the little cutter kit and then a .308" pilot that goes into it - you can get all kinds of sizes of pilots and use this for many rifles. You should be getting 2" and less at 100 yards with a Saiga .308 - that's what both of mine have done - 22 and 16" models. As to the fsb cant, I would just knock the retention pin out, place the fsb in a padded vice and rotate it to straighten and then drill a new

Renagadebuck makes a fine one.

You installed a pistol grip stock? That is what I think you are saying... to my knowledge, there is no drop-in fcg that will maintain the stock trigger configuration. All of the replacement fcg's are for standard AK configured receivers. I personally would return the stock and do a standard pistol grip conversion. You are finding out that you create more problems trying to avoid the conversion than just doing it... that or just be happy with the issue buttstock. IMHO

Yeah, the T-6 with the SAW grip is a popular config. Looks good dogbone! Is that an ACE - or I think it's the TAPCO? How's that brake attached on your .223? Did you thread the muzzle?

Just thought I'd post this pic of my Saiga 308 with all of her newest clothes on: Converted of course with: Tapco T-6 stock Tapco Saw grip windage adjustable rear sight FBMG 20 round mag Red Star fcg Can't remember the sling make - but it's got a skinny tab on the end that fits Saigas. This is about what I consider to be the perfect 308 carbine. Especially for the money. I'd put this up against any other similar rifle for accuracy, reliablity, durability, weight and versatility.