NedPepper 0 Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 410, 12s...shhh. http://www.rusmilitary.com/html/c-deact_magazines.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NedPepper 0 Posted June 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Watcha think? Dare we order just to have?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Living on the wild side huh? Be nice, after the ban expires. Let us know if they come through for you... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 all you need for them to do is mail them to ya with blocks of wood in em so they can only accept 5 shells.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 ...ahhhh, further temptation... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NedPepper 0 Posted June 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 (edited) I can't find anything that tells me one can't legally own a 10 round magazine for a Saiga shotgun. According to the site Bvamp linked..a magazine holding more than 10 rounds is considered post ban assault-ish. Anyone have other thoughts? Edited June 12, 2004 by NedPepper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 I brought it up a while back that there is no limit on shotgun detachable magazine capacity, but someone pointed out that it is illegal to import a shotgun mag that holds more than five rounds. If someone made the 8rd mags in the US, they'd be legal to own! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted June 13, 2004 Report Share Posted June 13, 2004 yeh, importing a shotgun mag that holds more than 5 rounds is illegal, but like i said, you can just have the sender block it up to accept 5 rounds. fear if you dare to take the block out and clip it to your gun. that is two seperate felonies if I have my information correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 WHERE IS THE DAMNED LAW? Illegal to import a mag over 5rd? Never heard it. As far as I know, it's a business decision by EAA. Break another law by inserting it? FIND THE DAMNED LAW, after you find the first one. I'm really tired of this "yes it is" "no it isn't" crap And no posting links as evidence that actually do not say what you're claiming they say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore 3 Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 I'll second the notion, post your source. Nothing personal, but I can find experts on every site that know something. We are ON THE INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY here, so let's stick with documented information. I'm still trying to understand all of the law (it reads like molassas), but I've yet to find a something that applies to Saiga mags or detachable mag limits. Unfortunately, the other fact (I can't prove this ) is that no one sells them, so either there is an agreement that is not publicized, or it is too grey for dealers to want to mess with, or it doesn't make business sense to dealers or whatever. This is bad news as it MAY mean that hicaps are not going to be available after the ban either. Or maybe the overly conservative importers will figure the coast is clear. Time will tell, and it won't be long now. IMO, YMMV, IIRC, etc etc etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Control3 3 Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 It is illegal to attach a magazine of greater than 5 rounds to your Saiga. This has nothing to do with the recently expired ban. I refer to the '89 importation ban: A shotgun having a magazine capacity of more than 5 shells is prohibited from importation as a sporting firearm under Title 18 United States Code (U. S. C.), 925(d)(3). Therefore it is a violation Title 18, U. S. C. 922 ® to assemble such a shotgun from imported parts as provided in Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), Part 479 (formerly Part 178) 478.39. This does not apply if you have exempted your shotgun from 922r by using enough US parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore 3 Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Thanks C3. I don't doubt that you could be right. But, Here is the verbaige that I have from 925 (3) is of a type that does not fall within the definition of a firearm as defined in section 5845(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 and is generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes, excluding surplus military firearms, except in any case where the Attorney General has not authorized the importation of the firearm pursuant to this paragraph, it shall be unlawful to import any frame, receiver, or barrel of such firearm which would be prohibited if assembled; or So, Can anyone show where the ATF has stated publically that magazines of 5 or fewer rounds = sporting, 8 rounds <> sporting? Opening this up out of the magazine question, can anyone show where their is a public declaration that pistol grips <> sporting or that folding stocks <> sporting. I'll concede the flash suppressors and the bayo lugs as not being sporting, but have they publically stated that? If not, it might behove all to configure as you want, document your possession, and then if they do declare in the future, you can show that your ownership predated their interpretation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Hm, I don't know. My quote came from an ATF response via letter to another member here (USMC_LB) and it was specifically about the Saiga12 and 5+ round magazines. I wish I could find the original post--it's here on the forums somewhere, because USMC_LB goes into more detail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jtf979 0 Posted October 31, 2004 Report Share Posted October 31, 2004 The real question is whether or not someone has ordered a few of these things. Well? Anyone? What is the fuss all about? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vern 0 Posted October 31, 2004 Report Share Posted October 31, 2004 What if you have already converted you saiga to the assault version (which requires the use of a set number of US made parts)? It would seem that if you are in compliace for pistol grip etc. you would also be in compliance for a high cap mag? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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