chips 0 Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 while i was shooting today, the forend on my saiga broke off again. this happened with the original wood stock that was on there, and it just happened again with the synthetic stock i put on it. why does this keep happening? anyways, i dont want to keep replacing the stock, so i might get rid of the saiga and get something else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RooK 0 Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Does yours have a pin sticking out from the gas block about 1/8th inch on each side? If it doesn't, that might be the culprit. It seems to act as a forward retainer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted October 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 yes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 how many rounds true it, and how much you want for it ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted October 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 (edited) i don't have any idea how many rounds it has through it. i bought it used, so im sure it already had quite a few rounds through it. ive put about 250-275 rounds through it so far. im not ready to sell just yet... i have one more idea, and if it doesnt work, the rifle will be for sale soon. Edited October 4, 2004 by chips Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted October 4, 2004 Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 Hey chips, can you post a pic of your forend? Sounds weird, I have had three saigas never had a problem with them, any way, maybe some one can help you, or give you any ideas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RooK 0 Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 It definately sounds odd. Mind grabs at both the front and rear and is a little stiff to seat into its final postition. I doubt it has enough movement to give way and break. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted October 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 Hey chips, can you post a pic of your forend? Sounds weird, I have had three saigasnever had a problem with them, any way, maybe some one can help you, or give you any ideas. yeah, give me a few minutes and i can post a picture of both broken forends.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted October 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 ok, this only has happened when i was firing while standing up. of course i had a firm grip on the forend as i always do when im shooting, and i think that's my problem. since there is only one screw holding it in, it just can't stand up to the recoil pulling it one way, and my hand pulling it the other way. the wooden stock is the original 308 sporter stock. the synthetic stock is a 7.62 stock i converted to be used on the 308. i mentioned that i had an idea... im going to use a piece of metal to fix it. i'd like for it to mount into the reciever, and run about half the length down the stock. it will be fastened in by screws. i have all the tools i need to grind, dremel, drill press it, whatever needs to be done. if this proves to be too difficult, my rifle might be up for sale. anyways, here's some pictures.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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vjor 2 Posted October 5, 2004 Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 Chips, one question, were the forend goes into the rifle and screws, there was a little metal square built into the forend were the screw goes into the forend ? . Second, you can grind some of the plastic of the forend about 4 inches install a small metal plate drill and tap the plate into the forend, screw it to the forend And drill and tap for the screw that holds the forend to the rifle, that will hold the forend to the rifle and the metal will take must of the pressure when you use it, in a hardware store or home depot, you will find small metal plates like 1/8 or 1/16 thick. you can attach the plastic that broke to it to. If you like, try brass plate first, easy to work with, if not a steel will be good. By the way krebs have forends for saigas, if you want give them a call the cost is about 35 bucks for it, but that is for buttstock and forend maybe you can make a deal and just for the forend will be cheaper if that works tell them that if you have any guarante on it, and that it brakes you can get your money back, don't hurt to ask . This is the url for krebs http://www.krebscustom.com/CustomParts.html http://www.krebscustom.com/index.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted October 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2004 the synthetic stock had the square metal piece, and the wodden stock had a circular metal piece around the screw. krebbs is where i got the synthetic stock. im gunna try to work with the broken ones to see what i can do without having to spend anymore money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted October 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 update - ive decided to try and use dental acrylic to fix it. the break is pretty clean, so it should work. the acryllic is pretty strong, and it fuses to plastic. once i get a hold of some, and try it, i'll let y'all know how well it works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted October 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 update - i only had the base for the dental acryllic i wanted to use, and it'd probably be a while before i could get the other part for it. anyways, i was at home depot today, and i saw some jb weld. i went ahead and bought some of it. i took the forend, sanded it with 80 grit sand paper, grinded the head off a 6" bolt and put it in the stock for support. i slathered jb weld all over it, and i think that might fix it. i'll let y'all know if it worked after it sets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted October 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 fianl update - the weld set, and it's a pretty strong hold. i think my problem is fixed. hopefully it'll hold when i bring it out in a couple weeks. ive still got 80 rounds of south african surplus to burn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 Hey bro, I hope it will work and you will not have any more problems with the front hand guard. Good luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HerrLar 0 Posted October 24, 2004 Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 Hey Chips - read my posting (it's one of the earliest in this forum) regarding the broken forend and the hoops jumped through to get a replacement. I'll keep this Saiga until the forend breaks again and then try to sell it. It just looks like a really poor design and we as consumers shouldn't be forced to screw around with drilling, tapping, epoxying etc. I know the cost of an M-1A could buy about 4 Saigas but I'm still wondering if I made a mistake by not saving my pennies...good luck and stay safe! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted October 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2004 I'm still wondering if I made a mistake by not saving my pennies ive had the same thoughts. actually, i got raped on my purchase - $400. this is actually the first gun i ever bought after i turned 18, and it was more of an impulse buy. ive just thought about the other guns i could've bought for that $400. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted November 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 so i fired one shot out of it and it broke. fuck this gun! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 chips, that sucks man. If its a gun, it better be reliable and I better be able to abuse the sucker, or its a POS if you ask me. If i need to baby it so much and cry when i scratch it, maybe its best left as a very expensive wall decoration for SOMEONE ELSE! if you need the other part of the dentist's acryillic to patch it up to sell, let me know. my stepmom is a dentist, and she prolly has some i can get off of her. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted November 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 (edited) chips, that sucks man. If its a gun, it better be reliable and I better be able to abuse the sucker, or its a POS if you ask me. If i need to baby it so much and cry when i scratch it, maybe its best left as a very expensive wall decoration for SOMEONE ELSE! if you need the other part of the dentist's acryillic to patch it up to sell, let me know. my stepmom is a dentist, and she prolly has some i can get off of her. naw, thats okay - dads a dentist, so i could get some if i wanted. but thanks anyway. i think im gunna buy a new stock and sell it locally. Edited November 7, 2004 by chips Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Chips. Hey bro send me a e-mail, see what can be done for you. just offering help. vjor36@comcast.net Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted November 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Chips. Hey bro send me a e-mail, see what can be done for you. just offering help. vjor36@comcast.net i appriceate it, but ive decided that i'll probably just get rid of it. i think im just gunna see if one of the people i shoot with wants to buy from me cheap after i toss a new stock on it. i'd like to pick up a sar-1 or another varient instead. im still considering a saiga-12, but that might not be for a while... but, yeah - thanks for the offer man, but im pretty much done with this rifle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Chips No Problemo, the offer will be open if you change your mind, do not get that piss off, one time I have to eat 200.00 bucks to repair an AR15, plus price of rifle, it hurt but shit happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted November 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Chips No Problemo, the offer will be open if you change your mind, do not get that piss off, one time I have to eat 200.00 bucks to repair an AR15, plus price of rifle, it hurt but shit happens. yeah, thanks again, but i just want something i don't have to worry about. i'll definately take a loss of about $200 on this gun, but i'll make it back one of these days Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YZracer 0 Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 how much for the .308? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chips 0 Posted November 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 how much for the .308? well, im not sure yet - like i said, there were a couple other places it might go, but if that doesnt happen i'll put it up for sale here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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