(4) 12 rounders or ONE 20 rounder?

[tommy05 0]

already have 2 10 rounders, dont know which option i should choose?

[emt1581 0]

already have 2 10 rounders, dont know which option i should choose?

 

I DID choose 4 12rd mags over one twenty round drum. Investment-wise, I'd probably go the route of the drum, but practicality...48 rounds of 12 gauge all the way (4 mags)!

 

I wasn't worried about looking pretty or making money on the deal. I wanted the most number of rounds.

 

Your needs might be different.

 

-Emt1581

[Dirkenstien 2]

already have 2 10 rounders, dont know which option i should choose?

 

I DID choose 4 12rd mags over one twenty round drum. Investment-wise, I'd probably go the route of the drum, but practicality...48 rounds of 12 gauge all the way (4 mags)!

 

I wasn't worried about looking pretty or making money on the deal. I wanted the most number of rounds.

 

Your needs might be different.

 

-Emt1581

 

 

Definitely go with the MD 20 Drum! You won't regret it.

[Franky 2]

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[7.62x39 0]

The AGP 10 rounders and MD drums are proven performers. I don't like the idea of plunking down $200 for mags that are unknown at this point.

[jrance@iacwds.com 716]

Regardless of whether the 12 rd mags turn out fantastic or not, you should be able to continue to get AGP 10 rd mags and you are likely to NOT be able to get the MD-20 Drum. Like emt1581 said everyone's needs are different. For me it would be a no brainer to get the drum while you can but that may not be your need/desire. Just get something.

 

1911

[emt1581 0]

Regardless of whether the 12 rd mags turn out fantastic or not, you should be able to continue to get AGP 10 rd mags and you are likely to NOT be able to get the MD-20 Drum. Like emt1581 said everyone's needs are different. For me it would be a no brainer to get the drum while you can but that may not be your need/desire. Just get something.

 

1911

 

Yup, like I said, I'd rather have the capability of putting more rounds downrange than have something highly valuable/rare with a fraction of the capabilitiy (number of rounds).

 

Please don't misunderstand though. Once I have all the mags, and I know they work, a drum will find it's way to my list. I just want to make sure my "practical" bases are covered first.

 

-Emt1581

[cellsworth 21]

A drum would be a good investment and a lot of fun, but I prefer stick mags for practical purposes. Ultimately it's a matter of personal preference though.

[jrance@iacwds.com 716]

A drum would be a good investment and a lot of fun, but I prefer stick mags for practical purposes. Ultimately it's a matter of personal preference though.

That's why I've got 27 stick mags and (3) drums plus a prototype.

[emt1581 0]

A drum would be a good investment and a lot of fun, but I prefer stick mags for practical purposes. Ultimately it's a matter of personal preference though.

That's why I've got 27 stick mags and (3) drums plus a prototype.

 

HOLY SHIT!

 

That's over $1200 just in stick mags! Altogether you probably have about $3k-$4K in just mags/drums...right?

 

-Emt1581

[jrance@iacwds.com 716]

A drum would be a good investment and a lot of fun, but I prefer stick mags for practical purposes. Ultimately it's a matter of personal preference though.

That's why I've got 27 stick mags and (3) drums plus a prototype.

 

HOLY SHIT!

 

That's over $1200 just in stick mags! Altogether you probably have about $3k-$4K in just mags/drums...right?

 

-Emt1581

Couldn't say really, 11 are Izzy from various sources at various prices, 10 are Clear AGP, and 6 are 5 rd. Izzy, the drums were pre-order. Besides that if I knew what I had invested and Mrs. 1911 asked I might be in deep doo doo. Better that I don't know. Same reason I throw away the liquor store receipt as they hand it to me. Some things are better left unknown.

1911

 

ps - these are things I used to own, I already sold them all at the garage sale.

Edited December 11, 2008 by 1911

[vbrtrmn 167]

I pre-ordered 8 of the 12-round mags, going to keep 2 or 3 and sell the rest at a bit of a mark-up to pay for the ones I keep. The drum is cool, I just don't feel like dropping the cash on it.

[Twinsen 86]

The MD-20 works. We don't know about the 12s yet, but the 20 WORKS. That's always a plus.

[emt1581 0]

Nice!

 

I thought we all did that? "How much was that??"..."I dunno, I bought it months (or if it's reallllyyy expensive) years ago"...

 

-Emt1581

[stiletto raggio 20]

I bought two MDs on pre-order back when they were $165. I may buy another one, but I am definitely going to buy a few more stick mags first. I eagerly await the Chaos 10 round drum as well. The 20 is awesome, though, and if you don't get one, you will wish you had.

[waltham_41 52]

I have 7 10 rd mags, the factory 5 rd and a MD20 drum.

 

If I have that drum in the shotty, and it turns out I run out of ammo before the issue is resolved, me thinks I got involved in something I should not have

[bigj480 203]

There's two ways to look at it. The drum is a better investment and you could always trade it for some mags OR your going to need mags and the drum is just for fun. Both are true, I would probably get the drum and get mags later. However, mags are a necessity and I would trade a drum for mags at a later date if I couldn't buy them. If you decide so get mags, get the AGPs. They are proven and I would hate to invest hundreds of dollars in (what may be) unreliable mags just because I was in a rush.

 

Damn 1911, I've go some catching up to do! I've got 15 mags and 3 drums, but I have no gun.

[Surly 11]

I got 26 of the 10's, one factory 5 and 2 of the 20's. I might snag a few of the 12's when they become available. I'm going out to try one of my drums today.

[jrance@iacwds.com 716]

There's two ways to look at it. The drum is a better investment and you could always trade it for some mags OR your going to need mags and the drum is just for fun. Both are true, I would probably get the drum and get mags later. However, mags are a necessity and I would trade a drum for mags at a later date if I couldn't buy them. If you decide so get mags, get the AGPs. They are proven and I would hate to invest hundreds of dollars in (what may be) unreliable mags just because I was in a rush.

 

Damn 1911, I've go some catching up to do! I've got 15 mags and 3 drums, but I have no gun.

Try to catch up with Cobra, I only had 4 S-12's and I have no idea how many he has. Or better yet, try catching up with JerryofDallas, Tony Rumore. Will at Red Jacket or Tom Cole. Toms even got a dang Tank!

 

1911

Edited December 13, 2008 by 1911

[Tactical_T 6]

A drum would be a good investment and a lot of fun, but I prefer stick mags for practical purposes. Ultimately it's a matter of personal preference though.

That's why I've got 27 stick mags and (3) drums plus a prototype.

 

You MAG WHORE...!!!

[bigj480 203]

There's two ways to look at it. The drum is a better investment and you could always trade it for some mags OR your going to need mags and the drum is just for fun. Both are true, I would probably get the drum and get mags later. However, mags are a necessity and I would trade a drum for mags at a later date if I couldn't buy them. If you decide so get mags, get the AGPs. They are proven and I would hate to invest hundreds of dollars in (what may be) unreliable mags just because I was in a rush.

 

Damn 1911, I've go some catching up to do! I've got 15 mags and 3 drums, but I have no gun.

Try to catch up with Cobra, I only had 4 S-12's and I have no idea how many he has. Or better yet, try catching up with JerryofDallas, Tony Rumore. Will at Red Jacket or Tom Cole. Toms even got a dang Tank!

 

1911

 

Hey, ya gotta have a goal, right? I'm destined to fail, but it'll sure as hell be fun trying!

[fxhart 14]

Geez! I only have the factory 5 rounder and 1 AGP 10 rounder. I do have two 12 Rounders on order with plans to cut one down to about an 8 rounder . 10's are too long for me I can only imagine what the 12's will look like! If the 12's work well I will buy more and cut some down. On a different note, I do have a line on a Saiga and MD Arms drum. I told him to hold it for me !

[runs-with-scissors 0]

Geez! I only have the factory 5 rounder and 1 AGP 10 rounder.

 

me to - oh crap

[yellowcarbon 4]

From a practical stand point, they more mags the better. Since a Saiga is a slave to it's mags, if one breaks, you need another. So have 4 mags vs. 1 drum is better.

 

From a fun stand point, what is better than a drum. A 20rd AK based semi auto shotgun is about as fun as it gets. It was what we dreamed about back when the 1994 Assualt Weapons Ban was in place.

 

From an investment standpoint, mags seem to be better. Before the 1994 AWB, you could get AR 30rd mags for $10 and a Beta-C mag for $180. The AR mags sold for $20-25 at the height of the ban for a 312% increase. The Beta sold for $400-500, for a 277% increase. I should also mention, selling 4 mags for $100 each will be easier than selling 1 drum for $500.

 

With all that said, I just ordered a Drum myself. Firearms are primarily a hobby for me. So fun and looks are important to me. It happens to be a secondary benefit that I get a SHTF weapon as well as a hobby that doesn't loose much value or even gains it. So while the items I buy mainly gains in value (IE investment) is definitely isn't the primary reason I do so.

[Blam 4]

already have 2 10 rounders, dont know which option i should choose?

 

I have 4 AGP 10 round mags, and tonight I was asking myself the same question you are asking. I decided on the MD Arms 20 round drum. The reason I chose the drum is because the SF 12 round magazines are 14 inches long (I read on here somewhere). That is longer than the 10 Round AGP, and for my purposes, those are really to long. On my Tromix S17 8" SBS, the magazine would be almost as long as my shotty! I have 2 8 round Izhmash mags, and they are the right length for my purposes.

 

Now, I dont know the length of the drum, but it is shorter than the 14" 12 round magazine. The down sides to the drum (IMHO), is that I will not be able to fold my Tromix stock closed while the drum is attached like I can with magazines, and the MD Arms does not take 3" shells, only 2 3/4".

 

If someone would make a magazine with staggered shells to hold 10 or 12 shells and keeping the magazine around 8 or 9 inches long, that would be perfect for me.

 

But to answer your question, my vote is to buy the drum. Consider the mags you have, with those in mind you pick up 10 additional shells with the drum, but only 2 more with the SF mags. With the MD Arms drum you will up the coolness factor.... and I bet the chicks would dig it more.

Edited December 16, 2008 by Blam

[Trzeci98 0]

get the sticks. drums are cool, but cool comes at a steep price of admission.

[fxhart 14]

The reason I chose the drum is because the SF 12 round magazines are 14 inches long (I read on here somewhere). That is longer than the 10 Round AGP, and for my purposes, those are really to long.

 

 

Has anyone actually seen or posted a photo of these mags? The various websites have the .308 picture up.