Joeddox 1 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Well the Ace folding stock I'm looking at is about $185 and seems to be a super easy install. The only thing I don't really like the look of having the trigger that far back. I've seen the video of the DIY conversion ( ) but I'm just scared to screw up my saiga 12. I only have a dremal and hammer.(no vice) So is it truely that easy to do the conversion? Would I be able to do a folding stock conversion? Links to all the parts I would need would be great..... (If this is already posted I didn't see it please don't flame me.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gibbles 23 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Convert that puppy! If you spend all that money and do the easy PG with the side folder and don't move the trigger group forward you will always wished you put on your man pants and whipped out that dremel. I did mine with a dremel, a philips screw driver, and a wrench I used as a hammer. When I put the DIY trigger guard on I cleaned the surfaces and used JB weld and bolted that sucker on tight. JB weld can also fill in the un wanted holes. I used a double hook trigger, I like the wider trigger surface it seems to come with. Hammer mod was easy. good luck and just do it man! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Well the Ace folding stock I'm looking at is about $185 and seems to be a super easy install. The only thing I don't really like the look of having the trigger that far back. I've seen the video of the DIY conversion ( ) but I'm just scared to screw up my saiga 12. I only have a dremal and hammer.(no vice) So is it truely that easy to do the conversion? Would I be able to do a folding stock conversion? Links to all the parts I would need would be great..... (If this is already posted I didn't see it please don't flame me.) With the Ace products, you're not doing a "folding stock conversion". You're doing a standard Saiga conversion and just using a hinge block on your Ace receiver block. A "folding stock conversion" is where you mill your receiver to fit a Russian design side folder, such as the Saiga 12C . . . and you'll be fine with a Dremel and a hammer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gothmog 24 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) I think I said this before..."Vice? Vice? I don't needed no stinkin Vice." No really you don't. I did mine on my floor, had a few 1x1 and 1x2 wood peices to use as wedges to stablize the reciever. Took about 2 hours total, and thats with a beer break. Just read all the stickies and tech section posts, get all your parts together and jump in. If you do have a problem, peeps on this forum will give you a helping hand. Good luck and have fun. HUZZAH!! Edited February 23, 2009 by Gothmog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joeddox 1 Posted February 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 So is it not possible to do a folding conversion (without milling the receiver)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 If you just want the folding stock, not something intricate like nalioth posted, you don't need to do anything to the receiver. If you want to use the internal receiver block, as opposed to the external one which bolts into the receiver like a fixed stock, you'll need to cut the tang off the receiver. If I'm not mistaken, the tang is the piece that sticks off the back of the receiver, where you attach the rear screw on the top of the factory stock, if that makes sense. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I used the external block on my conversion, but plan on installing the internal block shortly. The external block isn't as solid as the internal one, IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joeddox 1 Posted February 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 If you just want the folding stock, not something intricate like nalioth posted, you don't need to do anything to the receiver. If you want to use the internal receiver block, as opposed to the external one which bolts into the receiver like a fixed stock, you'll need to cut the tang off the receiver. If I'm not mistaken, the tang is the piece that sticks off the back of the receiver, where you attach the rear screw on the top of the factory stock, if that makes sense. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I used the external block on my conversion, but plan on installing the internal block shortly. The external block isn't as solid as the internal one, IMO. Where did you get yours elvis? I'd like to see a picture of it if possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 (edited) I ordered it directly from ACE. Here's a pic: Edited February 24, 2009 by elvis christ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joeddox 1 Posted February 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Thats exactly what i want! Where do I buy all the parts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 You gotta move the trigger forward, make your trigger guard work, or get a Tromix DIY trigger guard, and figure out how you want to mount your stock. I sent you a PM concerning that. Holler if you got more questions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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