mike1972 1 Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Hey, guys. Old school member her who tried his damnest to use the search feature to find someone making/selling the Galil style safety switches. No matter how specific I tried to be, I kept getting about 15 pages of returns. I seen someone on here making them, but cant remember who. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get Galil style safeties for my Saigas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fxhart 14 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 I haven't had any luck either. I'm interested in a few myself (as long as the price is right). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reverendfranz 160 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 theres not alot to them, if you have a file and modicum of skill with a file you can make one, i can post some pictures to help you see the idea if you like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike1972 1 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Reverend, please do if you dont mind. Im really wanting this part. Im trying to make these guns as ergonomic and user friendly as possible (wife, elderly mom, kids, ect lol) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike1972 1 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Ok, if you search for 'blackjack swift lever where are you' you will find the thread I was initially trying to find. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reverendfranz 160 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Well, now im confused about what you are looking for, but i take it you found it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike1972 1 Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 ReverendFranz, sorry, I should have been more specific. Its not the swift lever in that thread that I was interested in. It was the safety selector switch that was pictured. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Are you talking about the left side thumb safety? If so, there are two designs-one is push to fire, the other is pull to fire position. The first requires a rocker (change of dirrection) device and came on a lot of semi auto Galil. The second is more common as it was used on most FA versions but really isn't ergonomic. I know of no exhisting drop in unit. I know at one time Krebs had AK's with the feature. Most likely you're going to have to find the parts and modify. CGW was toying with a design at one time and Tony has a post from back in the day where he modded one. I could be mistaken, but I think JT Engineering also has something in the works, but it's a completely different design. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike1972 1 Posted July 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Thanks 6500. I was REALLY interested in the one from Tom. It looked to be just the ticket. But I see that he isnt messing with it anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fxhart 14 Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) I found them!!! Galil thumb safety's that go forward for 'Off Safe'! They're expensive ($65) and I'm not sure if these guys are reputable or not but they list them as in stock. Edited February 4, 2010 by Nailbomb Remove Non_buisness member link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reverendfranz 160 Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 Yeah... Not exactly reputable, akpartskits.com is Blackthorne which is formerly Hesse/Vulcan/Joeken. You probably have the idea by now, or know at least 5 names for which you can google ripoff reports. They probably, collectively, have the worst reputation of any firearms company in existence, actually, just by their persistence in still being around, without reforming. That being said, Ive purchased from them in the past, but I would be wary about that one, the fact that they have always been more than willing to take money in the past, before they have an item in hand, and that there is no picture availiable would make a bit wary. Sorry, i kinda forgot about this thread The standard Galil safety is just two pieces, and works fine, in my exp. Unfortunately, it also doesnt fit in a saiga, the two rear legs from the trunion come too far foreward and wont let the rifle come to fire, without some serious grinding on the piece that holds the rear of your rifle together. You can however make your own slightly bent version of the same, without too much work, using the original safety, if you make some measurements. It just sits on the end of the safety lever itself, and is pretty simple. now if you have your heart set on an inverted safety, ive never tried on a saiga, but i have some pictures of them, you can use your judgement to see if you think it will fit under the trunion or not. as you can see, they consist of four parts (what is this, an AR?) work exactly the same way, with a pivet point on the PG nut, and attaching to an additional lug on the safety. If the one BT sells doesnt have the PG nut, or whatever other ideas they have, its pretty much useless. If you want to buy original Galil Parts, to look at or to modify, look at SARCO, they also have a poor customer service reputation, but not because they lied, cheated and walked off with customers money, just because they are usually grumpy old men who are tired of going the extra mile. they have always done fine by me, though im not sure what parts they have in stock these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reverendfranz 160 Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 and yeah, thats probably why there is no picture, they are listing each piece separately, and hoping someone buys them so they can force them to buy the others to make it work Im guessing you would need: selector, left, inversed -- selector, left, for "inversed" left selector where forward is fire $65 selector, right, inversed -- selector, right, for "inversed" left selector where forward is fire $95 base, pistol grip, for inversed selector -- base, pistol grip, for inversed left selector $85 at least, just to play. Don't buy just the one item that is linked to above and think it is the whole mechanism, it is just the one lever. also, the above pictures arent mine, i just happened to have saved them when they were up last time, and dont remember who took them, or id give credit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigj480 203 Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 I bought the Galil thumb safety parts from akpartskits.com and had them shipped to etac for my build. I had no luck getting in touch with them to make sure the parts had shipped, but I did finally get confirmation from Esteban that the parts had arrived. I didn't have a problem contacting them before purchasing, however. I ordered parts for the froward=fire kit(inversed), there is a also a forward=safe kit. I ordered the parts that ReverendFranz listed: base, pistol grip, for inversed selector (G-00.706.1030) <-------I believe this includes the special grip nut selector, left, inversed (G-00.706.1001-2) selector, right, inversed (G-00.708.1090-2) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fxhart 14 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Went on vacation for a couple weeks and forgot I posted this! $245 (plus shipping I'm sure) is overly expensive to get the thumb safety but it's one of those things that I've always wanted to do to keep my AK 'as AK as possible'. I will check SARCO out. Thanks for the info Rev! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigj480 203 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 If you wanted to "keep it as AK as possible" you wouldn't change the safety. By the time I'm node with my saiga it will be more expensive than my M11. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fxhart 14 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 If you wanted to "keep it as AK as possible" you wouldn't change the safety. By the time I'm node with my saiga it will be more expensive than my M11. Good point. The Galil safety is 'AK Derivitive' and pretty unobtrusive. Ah well, one day I'll have it. I already have about $1000 extra into my M11 with more coming. If you haven't looked into one I would highly recommend a Lage Max-11 upper. It's the best thing I did for mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lokmeup 30 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I bought the Galil thumb safety parts from akpartskits.com and had them shipped to etac for my build. I had no luck getting in touch with them to make sure the parts had shipped, but I did finally get confirmation from Esteban that the parts had arrived. I didn't have a problem contacting them before purchasing, however. I ordered parts for the froward=fire kit(inversed), there is a also a forward=safe kit. I ordered the parts that ReverendFranz listed: base, pistol grip, for inversed selector (G-00.706.1030) <-------I believe this includes the special grip nut selector, left, inversed (G-00.706.1001-2) selector, right, inversed (G-00.708.1090-2) When you get your firearm back... take LOTS of pictures please I am seriously considering this modification. The left side of the rear trunnion needs modification to get it to fit. I would like to see pics before I start cutting. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigj480 203 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 When you get your firearm back... take LOTS of pictures please I am seriously considering this modification. The left side of the rear trunnion needs modification to get it to fit. I would like to see pics before I start cutting. Will do. It will be a while, probably 3 months or more, before I get it back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mike1972 1 Posted August 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I bought the Galil thumb safety parts from akpartskits.com and had them shipped to etac for my build. I had no luck getting in touch with them to make sure the parts had shipped, but I did finally get confirmation from Esteban that the parts had arrived. I didn't have a problem contacting them before purchasing, however. I ordered parts for the froward=fire kit(inversed), there is a also a forward=safe kit. I ordered the parts that ReverendFranz listed: base, pistol grip, for inversed selector (G-00.706.1030) <-------I believe this includes the special grip nut selector, left, inversed (G-00.706.1001-2) selector, right, inversed (G-00.708.1090-2) When you get your firearm back... take LOTS of pictures please I am seriously considering this modification. The left side of the rear trunnion needs modification to get it to fit. I would like to see pics before I start cutting. Thanks! Same here. I will definately be keeping an eye on this thread. I have a gun that is getting the Jack Travers sliding safety installed right now. I (like Jack and a few others) believe the safety on the AK SUCKS. Yeah yeah, I know that its functional and thats the way Mr. Kalishnikov intended, but ERGONOMICALLY..... it SUCKS.... To each his own.... The best way to engage/disengage ANY safety is to be able to do it as easily as possible, with as little hand movement as necessary. This inverse galil safety sounds very interesting. Almost AR15ish lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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