oswald 0 Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Newbie here. I know this question must have been asked in the past> Can you convert a Saiga 7.62x39 to accept AK47 mags? I bought a Saiga today and was very depressed to here my AK47(SAR-1) mags won't fit. I have 25 AK mags and don't want to now stock up on Saiga only mags. I'll probably sell the Saiga before I shoot it if there isn't a conversion option. BTW: I paid $338, good price or not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Do yourself a favor and look the forum over before you post anything else. . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oswald 0 Posted July 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Do yourself a favor and look the forum over before you post anything else. . . . I'm currently looking, thought someone may be able to give me a quick link. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dieb4iwake 60 Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 easy fix, all you gotta do is buy a trunion guide from dinzag http://dinzagarms.com/saiga_762x39/saiga_762x39.html just look and see if you need a flat one or round one install it and file (i dremeled) down the mag catch and maybe the area around where the mag is inserted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lakedweller 10 Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Use the search tab at the top of the page ....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kope007 14 Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 (edited) http://www.dinzagarms.com/downloads/bg_install.pdf http://www.dinzagarms.com/downloads/x39_mag_options.pdf ...and yes good price. Edited July 10, 2009 by kope007 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oswald 0 Posted July 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Much thanks to those who provided links. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goingpro 2 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 sell it and get an SGL-20 by arsenal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oswald 0 Posted July 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 sell it and get an SGL-20 by arsenal With an MSRP of >$900, I don't think so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evi1joe 1 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Evidently the trickiest parts about the trunnion install are (a) not breaking the bit in the hole, and ( filing the mag catch down ENOUGH to where you can use AK mags, but NOT TOO much so that you can't use Sufefires (if, like me, you own 5--$175 worth--Surefires). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fiver 1 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Where did you snag one for $338? IMO that is a good price in todays market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 (edited) Edited July 10, 2009 by Jim Digriz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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jimdigriz 580 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 The GunJoker crowd will tell any number of lies to sell their product. Actually, I found that statement on a page linked to from a sticky in this forum: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=32194 http://thegunwiki.com/Gunwiki/BuildSaigaVerifyCompliance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oswald 0 Posted July 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Evidently the trickiest parts about the trunnion install are (a) not breaking the bit in the hole, and ( filing the mag catch down ENOUGH to where you can use AK mags, but NOT TOO much so that you can't use Sufefires (if, like me, you own 5--$175 worth--Surefires). I bought my Saiga, but didn't buy Surefires. I already have 25 AK military mags. I purchased my Saiga in Colorado, my gun guy only charges $10 over his cost, due to the volume of guns he moves every month. Metal Surefire mags are $28, I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fxhart 14 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 If you use >10 round mags on an imported gun it's considered 'non-sporting' and you are in violation of 922r. Convert it to a pistol grip config with enough domestic parts and you'll be safe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dieb4iwake 60 Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 sell it and get an SGL-20 by arsenal With an MSRP of >$900, I don't think so. hahahahahahahahahahahaha i agree Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Sarge 34 Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Not trying to sway one way or the other as a mans gun is his and he can do with it as he pleases..... However I have to ask.....The SureFires are like $30 bucks....I have 3 each for my .223 and my 7.62....work great, well built, stout and I really like the last shot hold open feature...so my question is ...after modifying your gun (drilling/tapping/filing et al)...does the AK magazines hold open after the last shot or is there yet more mods? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Not trying to sway one way or the other as a mans gun is his and he can do with it as he pleases.....However I have to ask.....The SureFires are like $30 bucks....I have 3 each for my .223 and my 7.62....work great, well built, stout and I really like the last shot hold open feature...so my question is ...after modifying your gun (drilling/tapping/filing et al)...does the AK magazines hold open after the last shot or is there yet more mods? Your "bolt hold open" mags are neat to have - nothing more. They don't allow you to replace the mag and release the bolt on a fresh mag (like the AR15 or Vz58) IOW, you're not gaining anything from their use. Quite frankly, a "bolt hold open" is one feature I do not want on my AKs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fxhart 14 Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 They don't allow you to replace the mag and release the bolt on a fresh mag (like the AR15 or Vz58) IOW, you're not gaining anything from their use. In other words the full force of the recoil spring is pushing the bolt on the follower of the magazine making it harder to remove the mag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 They don't allow you to replace the mag and release the bolt on a fresh mag (like the AR15 or Vz58) IOW, you're not gaining anything from their use. In other words the full force of the recoil spring is pushing the bolt on the follower of the magazine making it harder to remove the mag. . . . not only that, but when you DO pull the mag clear, the bolt carrier slams forward . . . What have you gained? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 They don't allow you to replace the mag and release the bolt on a fresh mag (like the AR15 or Vz58) IOW, you're not gaining anything from their use. In other words the full force of the recoil spring is pushing the bolt on the follower of the magazine making it harder to remove the mag. . . . not only that, but when you DO pull the mag clear, the bolt carrier slams forward . . . What have you gained? The knowledge that you've spent $30 on an AK mag, when you can get good ol' steel ones for 1/3 the price! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 You can convert the Saiga to take AK mags but MAKE SURE YOU COMPLY WITH THE IDIOTIC USC922r if the mag capcity is over ten rounds. You can use the Dremel to remove material from the feed ramp to allow you to use both AK and Saiga magazines. The Saiga magazines will work even after you file down the magazine catch. There's is a lot of information in the forum about conversion, USC922r compliance and feed ramp installation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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