Got a few ?'s

[essohbe 47]

So I've pretty much decided on a Saiga 5.45 for next rifle project, assuming I can find one for reasonable price.

May have to wait

I plan on converting it, but I have a few questions I need help with and hopefully the people with experience here can help.

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• How hard is it to install the bullet guide for the 5.45 Saiga? I don't have to do anything then to the magazine well in order to use surplus AK74 mags, do I?
  
• Do all 5.45 Saigas have flat trunions?
  
• Is a 5.45 bolt smaller than a 7.62? I'd think it would be the same, extractor and all. Can a spare be reliably found?
  
• What do you all think of the Tromix products for conversions?
  

 

Thanks for any info.

Edited July 31, 2010 by essohbe

[Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393]

-How hard is it to install the bullet guide for the 5.45 Saiga? I don't have to do anything then to the magazine well in order to use surplus AK74 mags, do I?

 

Bullet guide is easy to install. All it is, is a single hole drilled through the front trunion, then tapped with a tap and tap holder (tap and drill bit come in the kits, and a tap holder is like $5) Just go slow, take your time, and do it carefully. Tapping is best done slow, one portion of a turn at a time, back up, repeat, lots of oil. A properly tapped hole is a cake walk. Removing a broken tap because you hurried, or chucked the tap into a drill, is a nightmare. No mods needed to the magazine well or magazine catch.

 

 

-Do all 5.45 Saigas have flat trunions?

 

Most do, but check your rifle before ordering a tap, just in case.

 

-Is a 5.45 bolt smaller than a 7.62? I'd think it would be the same, extractor and all. Can a spare be reliably found?

 

The Saiga bolts are AK-100 series, AK74 and AKM bolts will not work in them. Also, bolts need to be headspaced if I remember correctly as they can be slightly different. Replacement bolts and carriers for the Saigas almost non existant in the US.

 

-What do you all think of the Tromix products for conversions?

 

Which product? The stock? Fire Control Group? Trigger guard?

[essohbe 47]

Thanks for the reply. I could put the bullet guide in no problem. I am used to drilling and tapping some things.

 

That sucks about the bolt situation. So if anyone who has a Saiga 5.45 needs another one eventually then we're all out of luck?

 

The Tromix FCG I was wondering about.

 

Thanks again for the info.

[paprotective 362]

You don't need the Tromix. The standard Tapco G2 (single-hook) is all you need.

 

(The Tromix is a G2 modified for BHO (bolt hold open) and the 'hump' removed for the S308 and S12 shotguns)

 

Order the Tapco G2 (single) (save $20) and these parts:

 

1) Disconnect Spring

2) Retainer Plate

 

the BHO mod for the 'hammer' takes a few minutes with a dremel or bench grinder.. your removing the width of the BHO lever (its about 1/8" or so). Thats only if you want to use the BHO on your rifle.

 

I think my 5.45 conversion took like 45-50 minutes total.. (was my 2nd)

 

and yes they are hard to find right now.. maybe 4-6 months before more come in.. (total guess here)

 

 

Al

[Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393]

You don't need the Tromix. The standard Tapco G2 (single-hook) is all you need.

 

(The Tromix is a G2 modified for BHO (bolt hold open) and the 'hump' removed for the S308 and S12 shotguns)

 

Order the Tapco G2 (single) (save $20) and these parts:

 

1) Disconnect Spring

2) Retainer Plate

 

the BHO mod for the 'hammer' takes a few minutes with a dremel or bench grinder.. your removing the width of the BHO lever (its about 1/8" or so). Thats only if you want to use the BHO on your rifle.

 

I think my 5.45 conversion took like 45-50 minutes total.. (was my 2nd)

 

and yes they are hard to find right now.. maybe 4-6 months before more come in.. (total guess here)

 

 

Al

 

What he said!

[essohbe 47]

("...The Tromix is a G2 modified for BHO (bolt hold open) and ..."

 

Yea, I am interested in that for the BHO. I know you have to cut down the hammer a tad to fit it but it's not a problem. They (Tromix) are basically charging you extra just for the cut hammer then? ... well that's stupid, I am used to drilling and grinding metals so I can mod a G2 in my sleep.

 

Thanks for the info.

[my762buzz 141]

The Saiga bolts are AK-100 series, AK74 .......bolts will not work in them.

 

Has anyone actually tried a 74 bolt in their carrier to check? Other than maybe a cam angle difference they look identical from images.

The AKM bolt is obviously way different.

[L5K 162]

The Saiga bolts are AK-100 series, AK74 .......bolts will not work in them.

 

Has anyone actually tried a 74 bolt in their carrier to check? Other than maybe a cam angle difference they look identical from images.

The AKM bolt is obviously way different.

 

 

I'm not saying it's true, but I have read that the AK100 series bolt is of a smaller diameter than the AK74 bolt.

[my762buzz 141]

The Saiga bolts are AK-100 series, AK74 .......bolts will not work in them.

 

Has anyone actually tried a 74 bolt in their carrier to check? Other than maybe a cam angle difference they look identical from images.

The AKM bolt is obviously way different.

 

 

I'm not saying it's true, but I have read that the AK100 series bolt is of a smaller diameter than the AK74 bolt.

 

Hmmmmm....

 

[L5K 162]

Yeah, I have only read it on the internet. I do not have an AK74 bolt to compare with or measure, so I cannot confirm or deny.