VaiFanatic90 360 Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 I've decided, I'm going to make an AKS-74U. I gotta have one It's gonna be a lot of money for the stamps for the silencer, full-auto, and sbr. Then not to mention the parts kit and receiver, but well worth the money in my opinion. It's not gonna be something I do soon, but within the next year or so I'll be starting this project. Most likely after I build my AR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zambidis 90 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 I've decided, I'm going to make an AKS-74U It's gonna be a lot of money for the stamps for the silencer, full-auto, and sbr I think there is a fatal flaw in your plan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) I've decided, I'm going to make an AKS-74U It's gonna be a lot of money for the stamps for the silencer, full-auto, and sbr I think there is a fatal flaw in your plan. And that is? ETA: If you think I'm going to build a receiver, you read too much into it. Edited September 2, 2010 by VaiFanatic90 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vitamink 90 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 it's the "full auto" part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 it's the "full auto" part. Do go on. I gotta ask, why the vague responses? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Nothing Fatal about it...You are either going to be required to become a SOT, a soldier, LEO, felon... or maybe reaaaallly rich...all of that dismissed because none of them are "fatal", I foresee $600 worth in taxes just to start out which is BULLSHIT! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arik 565 Posted September 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 I think Vitamink is referring to the law that says no full autos can be made after 1986. But Im not realy familuar with that law so I could be wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zambidis 90 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) The context of your post made me think you were going to make a machine gun in the sense one makes a SBR. I took it that you were not going to buy one of the very finite number of guns (be that just a receiver or a whole weapon) that is already registered in the now closed machine gun registry. If that is your plan then why and how are you and then going to register that as an SBR? I further assumed that since you were worried about the price of two $200 tax stamps, and deemed $400 to be a lot of money (that you seemed to think would be 3 totaling $600 my understanding is a registered machine gun can have a barrel shorter than 16" perhaps I am mistaken) that meant you were not buying a registered machine gun. If $400 or even $600 is a lot of money to you then why in the world are you buying a registered machine gun? If you are SOT then a different set of rules applies but I am confused as to the tax stamps at that point. In sum I guess I do not know what your plan is and I am having a hard time figuring it out. What is your plan? Edited September 2, 2010 by Zambidis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 The context of your post made me think you were going to make a machine gun in the sense one makes a SBR. I took it that you were not going to buy one of the very finite number of guns (be that just a receiver or a whole weapon) that is already registered in the now closed machine gun registry. If that is your plan then why and how are you and then going to register that as an SBR? I further assumed that since you were worried about the price of two $200 tax stamps, and deemed $400 to be a lot of money (that you seemed to think would be 3 totaling $600 my understanding is a registered machine gun can have a barrel shorter than 16" perhaps I am mistaken) that meant you were not buying a registered machine gun. If $400 or even $600 is a lot of money to you then why in the world are you buying a registered machine gun? If you are SOT then a different set of rules applies but I am confused as to the tax stamps at that point. In sum I guess I do not know what your plan is and I am having a hard time figuring it out. What is your plan? Well, I intend to purchase receiver that's already registered as a machine gun. So yeah, it would actually only be two tax stamps for the silencer and SBR. However, after reading up on the NFA rules, I see you're right. If a weapon is registered as a machine gun, it does not require another tax stamp to make it an SBR. So then I'd really be paying $200 for the tax stamp for the silencer. And to clarify what I meant about $600 being a lot of money, I think it's a lot of money for some tax stamps. The amount of money I'll be paying for the receiver and all the other parts of the gun is to be expected, and I'm fully aware of the potential cost. Again, it's just the tax stamps that I think are a rip off. Oh well, until they go away or shit gets worse, we'll all have to deal with them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Sorry $400* in taxes which is still bullshit, and yes it is a lot of money to be paying for no damn reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Sorry $400* in taxes which is still bullshit, and yes it is a lot of money to be paying for no damn reason. Yeah, that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zambidis 90 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 (edited) I see. I'm not condoning the tax but I when one is going to buy a $20K gun (that is what impact guns has one listed at right now pictured below) and feed it at $200/1000 rounds the one time $200 tax stamp suddenly seems like an after thought. If one wants to buy a $200 .22LR suppressor (that would cost even less if the market wasn't artificially kept small) then yeah it seems like more of a concern one might have. Hell the sales tax on a $20k gun would be approx $1500 depending on location. I would probably own a lot more SBR/SBSs and silencers if there was no $200 tax. I don't know that it would really affect the number of machine guns. Even buy the time one gets to the price of a Mac its easy to not care about the extra $200.. *I note you are after a AKSU74 so the above prices of gun and ammo may not be spot on but serve to illustrate the general idea. Edited September 3, 2010 by Zambidis 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VaiFanatic90 360 Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 (edited) I see. I'm not condoning the tax but I when one is going to buy a $20K gun (that is what impact guns has one listed at right now pictured below) and feed it at $200/1000 rounds the one time $200 tax stamp suddenly seems like an after thought. If one wants to buy a $200 .22LR suppressor (that would cost even less if the market wasn't artificially kept small) then yeah it seems like more of a concern one might have. Hell the sales tax on a $20k gun would be approx $1500 depending on location. I would probably own a lot more SBR/SBSs and silencers if there was no $200 tax. I don't know that it would really affect the number of machine guns. Even buy the time one gets to the price of a Mac its easy to not care about the extra $200.. *I note you are after a AKSU74 so the above prices of gun and ammo may not be spot on but serve to illustrate the general idea. Buying a no kidding FA krink as you said would cost $10-25K. I'm looking at becoming a licensed manufacturer anyway as I posture to open up a range and shop, so that might be the route I take. Again, this isn't something I'm going to do all too soon. They really need to repeal that '86 FOPA machine gun ban. I can keep dreaming. *sigh* Edited September 3, 2010 by VaiFanatic90 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vampire847 9 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Anyone know how hard it would be to put an underfolder on the arsenal krinkov? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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