Trigun5312 3 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Hello, I have been a fan of the Saiga 12 for a number of years now, but have been living in the city where I am unable to shoot regularly. I now live out in the boonies and have the ability to shoot whenever I want, so I am looking into the Saiga 12. My questions are about the different configurations available. I know before the assault weapons ban expired, only the sport model was available for import into the states. Now that it has expired is it possible to buy a factory configured pistol grip Saiga, or is it still custom work only? Also, what is the best method of purchasing a Saiga? Should I just buy from the local gun store ($699 for a sportster...), buy online (gun store charges 10% FFL), try for a Gun Show or order a custom that has had the pistol grip installed? My overall goal is to have a "tacti-cool" shotgun with pistol grip, optics, and quad rail. The rail and optics can wait, but if I purchased a Saiga in sport configuration I would definitely want to change the grips ASAP. I understand that this would require me to make the gun 922r compliant, so I was wondering if just purchasing a pre-modded Saiga would be roughly the same cost as building one myself. There is a lot of information on the internet, but a lot of it also seems to be out of date. I just wanted to ask for 7your guys expertise to try to make sense of this process. I'm sure I want a Saiga, I'm just not sure where to start! Thanks for your Help! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 (edited) You can get'em on the net (sporter) for under $500. Test it before converting. It's fun to convert. Kinda like grownup legos with a bang. Go for it. I believe K-VAR is the cheapest at the moment. also, check other gun stores about the FFL charge. Mine only charges $25 + $10 background check. ETA; Kavar.... $469.00 http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?productid=17609&cat=0&page=1 Edited August 21, 2010 by Paulyski Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frowhite 7 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 I just got the IZ-109 (19" saiga 12) online for $469 plus shipping and FFL. The FFL I use only charges $15 and it was $20 shipping. Also buying online saves you the tax so I only had to pay tax on the $15 FFL fee. So all told it was about $505 for the shotgun. I converted it myself using the kit from Carolina Shooting Supply which I would highly recommend. The trigger guard (CSS one) is all threaded and makes it really easy to install everything. So after that it added $139.99 to the total price. So the converted model doing it myself cost $645. From what i've seen buying an already converted on will run anything from $1,000 to $3,000 although they will do more then the simple conversion like polish all the internals and do any gas work that needs to be done. I think its way more fun to do the conversion yourself but it boils down to what you want.... the link for the kit I used is below, if you want to know where I ordered the gun just PM me... since they are not a business member on here I don't know if I should post the site... http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-439/SAIGA-12-CONVERSION-KIT/Detail Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 if you want to know where I ordered the gun just PM me... since they are not a business member on here I don't know if I should post the site... If it's K-VAR, they ARE a business member.... Post away! http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?productid=17609&cat=0&page=1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frowhite 7 Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 if you want to know where I ordered the gun just PM me... since they are not a business member on here I don't know if I should post the site... If it's K-VAR, they ARE a business member.... Post away! http://www.k-var.com...09&cat=0&page=1 the place I got it was not.... but go with K-Var same price and is a business member Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snoofer 138 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 $459.99 (while supplies last) http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-505/SAIGA-12-IZ-dsh-109-19%22/Detail do it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaKen 338 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 (edited) http://www.saiga-shotguns.com/category/1439-Saiga_Shotguns_12.aspx $416.99 Edited August 22, 2010 by Saiga Power Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 if you want to know where I ordered the gun just PM me... since they are not a business member on here I don't know if I should post the site... If it's K-VAR, they ARE a business member.... Post away! http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?productid=17609&cat=0&page=1 I've been thinking about grabbing a couple at that price from KVar. I placed an order recently and there were a couple issues (one was their fault, one was my fault). I was completely impressed with their customer service. It had a very personal feel and didn't feel like I was dealing with a company of KVar's size. They made me more than happy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TO THE FLOOR IN A 63 121 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 I use a pawn shop for my FFL...they only charge $20. Other pawn shops here charge the same but are not as close. Call around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Domack 0 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 $459.99 (while supplies last) http://store.carolin...09-19%22/Detail do it! That's for the 24" The 19" is $501.99 http://www.saiga-sho...K_SYN.aspx?SR=1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trigun5312 3 Posted August 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 I use a pawn shop for my FFL...they only charge $20. Other pawn shops here charge the same but are not as close. Call around. Awesome idea about the pawn shops. I don't know why i hadn't thought about that. Thanks for the help guys. Looks like I'll buy online and try to convert it myself down the road! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TO THE FLOOR IN A 63 121 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 (edited) I use a pawn shop for my FFL...they only charge $20. Other pawn shops here charge the same but are not as close. Call around. Awesome idea about the pawn shops. I don't know why i hadn't thought about that. Thanks for the help guys. Looks like I'll buy online and try to convert it myself down the road! I found them on gunbroker.com.....it gives you a list of FFL's and what they charge if you plug in your zip code. But many in your area may not be on there Edited August 23, 2010 by TO THE FLOOR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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