baraban7.62 20 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Me and my friend stayed up all night (till 3 a.m.) last night doing the pistol grip conversion to my 7.62 saiga, we used a G2 trigger group, a wooden pistol grip, a wooden butt stock, and everything else was original, when we took it out on the range the next morning, the first 2-3 rounds came out on full auto, than it would shoot 1 round at a time, and not cock the hammer back, so i would have to wrack it every time, and than it shot a burst again later on, sometimes it would actually do what it is supposed to do, if i squeezed the trigger fast enough. What did we do wrong? why is it doing that? and can i get in trouble for that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scattergun10 125 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Did you install the disconnector spring with your trigger group ? IIRC, most G2's don't come with one, you have to buy it seperate. (not sure why) Technically, you should not have it operating like it is currently, but you should be fine, just get it fixed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heath_h49008 442 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Check your springs. Did you remember to reuse your disconnector spring, or did it pop out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Also, is possible the hammer was installed upside down. Can you show pics of the FCG? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfanatic 221 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Check you disconnector and spring should look like this. Also the malfunction is called a "slam fire" not "auto" ATF will fuck you over that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob-cubed 74 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 (edited) Definitely, sounds like a disco problem or as Jim said perhaps you installed another component wrong which is causing the issue. Pics would definitely help. Did you use the original hammer or the new one with the G2? Edited February 1, 2011 by rob-cubed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baraban7.62 20 Posted February 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 i installed everything that came with the G2 trigger group, the spring? i did not install any springs, now that i look at the old (original) trigger group, there is a spring sitting in the middle, should i take it out and install it? I do not have pictures, and i already gave the rifle to the gunsmith to change out the gas block , the front sight block and to put the lower hand guard retainer on, so i cannot take any pictures for a couple of weeks till i get it back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 i installed everything that came with the G2 trigger group, the spring? i did not install any springs, now that i look at the old (original) trigger group, there is a spring sitting in the middle, should i take it out and install it? I do not have pictures, and i already gave the rifle to the gunsmith to change out the gas block , the front sight block and to put the lower hand guard retainer on, so i cannot take any pictures for a couple of weeks till i get it back You deff need the disconnector spring. http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-166/Tapco-Saiga-Rifle-12/Detail If you already took it to the gunsmith you can probably just let him know you need it installed. Either get him to order it for you or drop him one off. I bet that will fix the issue. Easy fix. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 i installed everything that came with the G2 trigger group, the spring? i did not install any springs, now that i look at the old (original) trigger group, there is a spring sitting in the middle, should i take it out and install it? Yes. Retrieve the spring from inside this part of the original FCG: It must be installed between the trigger and disconnector. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baraban7.62 20 Posted February 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 i installed everything that came with the G2 trigger group, the spring? i did not install any springs, now that i look at the old (original) trigger group, there is a spring sitting in the middle, should i take it out and install it? Yes. Retrieve the spring from inside this part of the original FCG: It must be installed between the trigger and disconnector. will do as soon as i get the rifle back, thank you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuffetDestroyer 969 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Me and my friend stayed up all night (till 3 a.m.) last night doing the pistol grip conversion to my 7.62 saiga, we used a G2 trigger group, a wooden pistol grip, a wooden butt stock, and everything else was original, when we took it out on the range the next morning, the first 2-3 rounds came out on full auto, than it would shoot 1 round at a time, and not cock the hammer back, so i would have to wrack it every time, and than it shot a burst again later on, sometimes it would actually do what it is supposed to do, if i squeezed the trigger fast enough. What did we do wrong? why is it doing that? and can i get in trouble for that? You can definitely get in trouble for the current configuration and you might also want to check your parts count to make sure you are legal if the wood furniture isn't U.S. Made. To prevent having issues with someone reporting you at the range while you are trying to fix the trigger problem, unload the gun, cycle the action, pull the trigger and with the trigger still pulled, cycle the action again, release the trigger and if it doesn't reset to the ready to fire mode (i.e. it doesn't remain cocked), you are still messed up. If you got the G2 from a gun store, it may have been from the lot that got recalled as Gun Fanatic posted. I would take out the trigger and check the pictures on this forum to make sure everything is correctly installed and see if your trigger is one of the recalled ones from Tapco. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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