Saiga 12 flash hiders

[The Night Armory 0]

I need an honest answer here. Do the flash hiders for the saiga 12 really work to dissipate gas and reduce muzzle flash or are they just for show? And if they do work, which one is the best choice for muzzle flash? Thanks

[lbsrdi 1,078]

To me flash hiders are to conceal your position. The S12 to me is a close range weapon, if you have a rifle for long range shots, how are you going to conceal your position at close range with a shotgun. If your sniping with slugs then I'm all for it.

[bc5000 26]

If your going to get one, I recommend one of these from MD Arms.

 

The short one is 2 3/16" and the longer one is around 2 5/8". They are about the most reasonably priced out there and I think they are the best looking. I just got the longer one.

 

[MT Predator 2,294]

With a 12 gauge, you should be more concerned with helping control the muzzle IMO. As previously stated, it is a close in weapon so the blast and flash are going to be very obvious. A brake to control recoil and muzzle flip would be a better investment. I've had pretty good results from a Tromix Shark.

[The Night Armory 0]

Right now I have a choke on it and am happy with that. But was debating about switching to a flash hider that did work.

[tktm 13]

A 12 gauge shot indoors can lead to night blindness very quickly. I'll take muzzle flip over night blindness

[fauxknight 30]

There are some combination muzzle brake/flash hiders out there if you want a little of both, Greg/CSS has these discounted at the moment. I picked one up because they were inexpensive and I was a bit undecided on what muzzle attachment to buy:

 

Edited February 20, 2011 by fauxknight

[lbsrdi 1,078]

I never thought of the night blindness, is that really something you should consider? If so, would a flash hider really prevent it?

[Mike1234567 26]

I never thought of the night blindness, is that really something you should consider? If so, would a flash hider really prevent it?

 

Good question since much of the flash is diverted sideways rather than directly in front. I'm interested in real-world empirical evidence also.

Edited February 20, 2011 by Mike1234567

[tktm 13]

I never thought of the night blindness, is that really something you should consider? If so, would a flash hider really prevent it?

 

Good question since much of the flash is diverted sideways rather than directly in front. I'm interested in real-world empirical evidence also.

 

white walls reflect lots of light

[lbsrdi 1,078]

Mirrors do too.

[Mike1234567 26]

I never thought of the night blindness, is that really something you should consider? If so, would a flash hider really prevent it?

 

Good question since much of the flash is diverted sideways rather than directly in front. I'm interested in real-world empirical evidence also.

 

white walls reflect lots of light

 

Mirrors do too.

 

So... in a "home" environment... flash suppressors actually blind worse than having none?

[tktm 13]

if its a true flash suppressor it is supposed to reduce the flash, not just redirect. A flash suppressor works by controlling the expansion of the gasses, any openings that go across the path of the barrel tend to make bigger flashes. Openings in line with the barrel tend to reduce flashes. Circular openings tend to make bigger flashes, although that can be improved if those openings are counter countersunk. Openings that cause sharp changes in the direction of the gases tend to make more flash (which is why flash suppressor openings look like counter sunk stretched rectangles /ovals