lviv 0 Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 I have a Saga 12 that I did the PG donversion on and use for my local matches. I have twice had the spring that rests on top of the tab on the manual bolt hold open lever slip off and render the gun inoperable. After it happened the first time I filed a narrow groove in the top of the tab thinking that it would keep the spring from slipping off, but apparently it didn't work because it happened to me again last weekend during the match. I now have drilled a very small hole through the tab and have "threaded" the end of the spring through it. I was wondering if any other members have ever had any problems with the bolt hold open lever? I know I could just remove it all together, but I like the feature and to be able to have the action opened between stages so there is no question in anyones mind that the gun is safe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csmw 98 Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Never personally had any issues, once notched. I like the BHO too, sorry you are having issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
geepelton 105 Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Take it out and do this!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim2shu 48 Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Take it out and do this!!! That's cool how hard is this to do and has anyone else done this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
702Saiga12 6 Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 you could also have your bolt profiled and load on a closed bolt..that's what ive done with my saiga's..the BHO is the first to go! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Take it out and do this!!! Krebs, sales it. and it's just as simple as removing your saftey. I thik it's a 50 dallor part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 OP, Notch the ear of the BHO that the spring sits on like I do in GlassBolt for people who want to run their BHOs. Are you sure you went deep enough? Go deep & it'll ensure the BHO spring won't fall off on you. Next, you hit the darn thing while firing from the hip. Seriously, the more parts, the more that can go wrong. you could also have your bolt profiled and load on a closed bolt..that's what ive done with my saiga's..the BHO is the first to go! How're the GlassBolts workin' out for ya? You may have to send the IceRack back for touchup... I do something a little different now on some. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chaseface 41 Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Yes do the notch and also don't forget to put a bend in the spring. I had the same problem about a month ago, hasn't repeated itself yet thankfully. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lviv 0 Posted June 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 OP, Notch the ear of the BHO that the spring sits on like I do in GlassBolt for people who want to run their BHOs. Are you sure you went deep enough? Go deep & it'll ensure the BHO spring won't fall off on you. Next, you hit the darn thing while firing from the hip. Seriously, the more parts, the more that can go wrong. you could also have your bolt profiled and load on a closed bolt..that's what ive done with my saiga's..the BHO is the first to go! Pauly, I've actually drilled a .040" hole right through the tab this tims instead of the notch, and Ive threaded the end of the spring right through the hole. I don't think there's any way it would be possible for it to pop off. The problem is I have no way of knowing for sure until it happens again. After the first time it happened and I filed the notch, I used the gun in two matches with no problems and then it happened again during my most recent match. You remark about me hitting the lever while fireing from the hip, well, I don't do that while shooting a match, but what about if the top of my hand, by my index finger knuckle were to push up on it while firing, wouldn't the worst that could happen be that the bolt would lock back in the middile of the course of fire? What I mean is, it shouldn't cause the spring to pop off because I inadvertantly hit the lever at the wrong time, should it? How're the GlassBolts workin' out for ya? You may have to send the IceRack back for touchup... I do something a little different now on some. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TIGERARMS 0 Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 The worst part is trying to take it all apart with the bolt 'stuck' in the rear position. This issue robbed me of a few hours the other night. Putting a nice little bend on the end of the spring fixed the problem. I was ready to throw the thing out of the window. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
702Saiga12 6 Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 DAMN PAULY!! Im diggin that jeweling you do on the bolt carrier!! well I have 5 saiga's...so when #3 goes up for conversion I'll be calling ya! and the glass bolt still mystifies me and anyone who sees it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csmw 98 Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Are you sure you went deep enough? Go deep & it'll ensure the BHO spring won't fall off on you. I agree with Pauly, if it is cut deep enuff, it won't come off. Pauly, the jeweling looks good, nice job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
geepelton 105 Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Take it out and do this!!! That's cool how hard is this to do and has anyone else done this? It's easy to do and does not take that long. I did it in a couple of minutes with my Dremel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
geepelton 105 Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Even of you notch the BHO deep and bend the spring, it can still get stuck up in the gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Even of you notch the BHO deep and bend the spring, it can still get stuck up in the gun. It won't if you tweak the right leg of the hammer spring to hold the BHO lever against the side of the receiver. I'll admit I don't use the BHO very often, but it's good to have it there if I do need it, if for nothing more than to inspect the bore without tearing the whole gun down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 +1 on the bent hammer spring. I did that when I first converted along with bending the BHO spring over the tab it rests on and have had no issues in a thousand rounds or so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
geepelton 105 Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Even of you notch the BHO deep and bend the spring, it can still get stuck up in the gun. It won't if you tweak the right leg of the hammer spring to hold the BHO lever against the side of the receiver. I'll admit I don't use the BHO very often, but it's good to have it there if I do need it, if for nothing more than to inspect the bore without tearing the whole gun down. I have done all three things to prevent it. On rare occasions it still got stuck up in the gun. That is why I removed it and notched the safety lever to hold the bolt back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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