TKIMFG 0 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hi Guys, just about to start on my first conversion of a Saiga-308-1. I bought the internal block and the Tromix skeleton stock from CSS, and besides the stock being freakishly short (or me being freakishly tall), I was very surprised by the poor fit of the stock to the block. I did not plan to use a folding hinge, but to bolt it directly to the internal block. The mounting holes are centered on the main line of the stock, but offset from the perspective of the mounting surface, if that makes any sense: On the left side, the stock hangs over by about 5 mm : On the right side, the block sticks out by a couple: Is it supposed to be like that ? That looks like total crap. I assume I would have the same problem with the Universal (no-cut) block ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PRISONSHANK 70 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 that stock is offset to fit a folding mech. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TKIMFG 0 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 that stock is offset to fit a folding mech. Thanks, I figured as much by now. I wish CSS would mention that on their website. Ordered a Stormwerkz hinge, let the wait begin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Edited January 14, 2012 by DrThunder88 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 My Ace block is not offset. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 The holes are on the centerline of the stock, they won't affect line-up. (null) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TKIMFG 0 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 The holes are on the centerline of the stock, they won't affect line-up. Agreed, but you see from the pictures how it looks when you bolt the stock directly to the block. Maybe I'm too sensitive, but that's not how I want any of my rifles to look. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Javagator 1 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) I guess I'm picky also. I have the same issue. Just posted this issue last night. Here is a pic. I didn't want a folder but I feel like I need one now to justify the look of my stock. I'm disappointed that I can't run this without a folder and have something that doesn't look cock-eyed. Edited January 18, 2012 by Javagator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnNicholasM 7 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Darn that is offensive to the eye! I sure wouldn't be pleased with such an arrangement on my rifle. You're not being picky at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 I understand your point, hopefully you can understand mine. We designed the stock for our builds; we never intended to sell it as an accessory item. 98% or our builds have the Ace hinge. You can see that the mounting holes are on the centerline of the stock: And how the flange makes the hinge look better...I don't have a pic with the symmetrical flange, but trust me it didn't look as good. If you really don't like it you can always hit it on a disk or belt sander, but in any case that's the reason for the design. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Javagator 1 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Yup.. Totally understood. Thanks for the response. I guess I'll have to join the rest and get a folder because your stock was the only design I liked. Thank you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Either way, the centerline of the stock should be on the centerline of the gun; it's just that the left side flange is slightly longer to clean up the aesthetics of the hinge. That area is solid resin and can be machined and sanded. Javagator, I don't know if its just the pic angle or what but it almost looks like its off center. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 From the center line of the dust cover to the centerline of the stock, it looks like about 1/4" of offset to the left. WTF???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Javagator 1 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) From the center line of the dust cover to the centerline of the stock, it looks like about 1/4" of offset to the left. WTF???? I ended up taking the stock off and considering my options here. Its not centered and its not straight. The shotgun is square when the stock was removed and it was sitting on the internal receiver block, even checked it with a level. With the stock attached you can easily tell with the naked eye its not straight inline with the gun. You can see in this pic how the stock angles to the right as you look at the pic Edited January 20, 2012 by Javagator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Javagator 1 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) I understand your point, hopefully you can understand mine. We designed the stock for our builds; we never intended to sell it as an accessory item. 98% or our builds have the Ace hinge. This one is directly from the Tromix website without a folder. Does your builld look like mine? If not, is it a different designed stock? I need to make sure I don't have a factory defect or something. If I sand this thing down to straighten it out I'm concerned that the texture of the stock will look different where I sanded it. Edited January 21, 2012 by Javagator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 The face you need to sand or file will be flush with the mounting plate. as for the left side, you might be able to replicate the texture with a flap wheel and a bit of oil. Or set it on some 50 grit sand paper and smack it with a rubber mallet to pebble it., then go over it with a buffer wheel lightly to re-sheen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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