Maniac Jack 2 Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 So, I have a Saiga 12 with a 19" barrel and no threads. I've heard that the models with the 19" barrel AND threads are not choked, and that the models with 22" barrel without threads is FULL CHOKE. So, my question is, with my barrel being 19" with NO THREADS, where does that put me as far as choke is concerned? How can I tell if its choked or not? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore 3 Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 So, I have a Saiga 12 with a 19" barrel and no threads. I've heard that the models with the 19" barrel AND threads are not choked, and that the models with 22" barrel without threads is FULL CHOKE. So, my question is, with my barrel being 19" with NO THREADS, where does that put me as far as choke is concerned? How can I tell if its choked or not? Thanks. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Measure it, or better yet, go shoot it. If it's full choke it's VERY full and your pattern will show it very clearly. Send it to me and a case of shells, no make that a case of birdshot, buckshot and slugs (for your other post) and I'll take care of it for you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AegisDei 2 Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Two quick notes on this...shoot birdshot to see the spread. The heavier pellets (buckshot) will not spread much with or without chokes. Also, be sure you've "mastered" the gas system. Not much to master, but I still mix it up: 2 is for light loads, 1 for magnum. I know it sounds simple, but I'm forgetful so pleasant reminders are always appreciated. Have fun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 If the side of the reciever is marked F 1.0 , then it came as a full choke . If a U.S. dime will not drop into the muzzle then it is a full choke. G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maniac Jack 2 Posted September 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 Well it says on the side 12x76 18,3 and a dime does fit in the barrel. Oh yeah, I went and threw some bird shot through it, and it is deffinitely not choked. It spreads out pretty bad. I guess its time to get that barrel threaded for chokes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 There you go! I think internal chokes are the way to go, the selection is endless. Check out the Gunners Choice chokes extended and threaded for muzzle breaks at Brownells. G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AegisDei 2 Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 I agree...I have Briley's Compensated Choke Tubes. I love 'em. You may also look at Cutts Compensator, Gunner's Choice, or the Brileys. All seem like good options. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maniac Jack 2 Posted September 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Well, I like the idea of an adjustable choke. I was looking in the new Cabella's catalog and spotted this one called Pollychoke, its adjustable from Xtra-Full to cylinder bore and says it handles slugs Heavi-Shot and steel. If I get my barrel threaded I can go with that. I'm just not sure which type of threads to go with. Remmington, Browning, Mossberg, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore 3 Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 No one thread is better. They only happen to be different as shotgun manufactures didn't standardize early in the game. If you have another shotty, match that so you can swap chokes. If not, will you ever buy one of these three shotguns, if so which is likely? If not, do any of your friend have a Browning,Mossberg or Remington? If none of these, then I'd say get a Rem threading as they have a larger market share of shotgun ownership. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ISUshooter 0 Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 If the side of the reciever is marked F 1.0 , then it came as a full choke . If a U.S. dime will not drop into the muzzle then it is a full choke Isnt that trick used for 20ga? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Isnt that trick used for 20ga? Maybe so... but then you are trying to compare a choked 12 gauge on a 20.... since that makes no sense, I will refrain from posting a picture of a rabbit with a pancake on its head... Seriously, a choked 12 gauge with a full choke will NOT allow a dime to drop in the muzzle, however a looser choked 12 WILL let a dime slip in... thats the "poor mans quick way" to check choke restriction... no dime = full dime = less than full... simple as that... as far as a 20 gauge goes... I got no idea what you could use for a gauge tool... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AegisDei 2 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 A quick question about Kmoore's post which I hate to even bring up since he has much more experience than I, but aren't Win-choke threads the most common? I thought Mossburg, Winchester, and Browning all used Win-choke, and ONLY Remington used Rem-choke. Thus, most shotgun manufacturers have the threading for Win-choke and this will be your most available choke tube. Anyone know more than I that can second Kmoore? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AegisDei 2 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 And I really want to see a rabbit with a pancake on its head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Ok.... here ya go... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AegisDei 2 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 And I thought you were kidding. I might have to change my avatar to that now. Thanks. That made my morning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 are you happy with the tread job done you Tom? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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AegisDei 2 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 I haven't gotten to shoot much with my new chokes, but from everything I can tell Tom did a great job. My zero is perfect (or as perfect as adjustable sites can be), so I'm more than happy. I just want to shoot some more. And thanks for the info Dinzag...might be better to go with Winchoke for versatility and availability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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dinzag 31 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 I prefer RemChokes myself...I seem to see those more often. Also my gunsmith will be doing my S-20 ($72) for RemChokes. He doesn't do WinChokes...dunno why, maybe doesn't have the equipment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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