severephitz 0 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I have a SBS 12 cut to 12 in but the "gunsmith" that was suppose to thread the end for the muzzle break messed up the threads and essentially left it for me to try to fix. I think I can get the muzzle break welded on via tig weld but I am not sure if it matters ... maybe i should just leave the muzzle break off? Any suggestions? Does it make a difference outside of recoil? Thanks... oh yea I never moved the gas block because I found with the heavier loads I was shooting I never had an issue... thanks.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Salt1219 176 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) post some pics, i would love to see your gun. sorry i can't offer you any advice, i'm still learning my self. ooh and welcome to the forum Edited June 26, 2012 by Salt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fitty% 808 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Depending on how much room you have left you might be able to shorten it a little more and rethread the barrel. It would help out a lot if we could see a picture of the gun and muzzle break. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
severephitz 0 Posted June 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 I will try to get some posted... Like I said it is 12.25 in right now and I am afraid to go less than 12 least I have to move the gas block and I just don't really know how to do all that... I mean I read all the info on taking it off but making it shorter seems a bit more complicated... like I said I could just leave it off ... anyway I will try to get some pictures tomorrow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
severephitz 0 Posted June 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 these are the messed up threaded well seems the picture didn't go but i put them all in my gallery... thanks for your help and suggestions Quote Link to post Share on other sites
severephitz 0 Posted June 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 try picture again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socom688 217 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) Here ya go. Too much of a pain in the ass to check your album BTW that looks like hell. Make him give you a refund, or fix his mistake. It is obvious it's messed up Edited June 26, 2012 by socom688 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Theres room to cut, crown, and rethread. Those threads look (and this is only based on photo) crooked. Puting a muzzle break on that might end up with some strikes, if it's not square. You could, assuming you have the equipment to do this cut and crown the barrle, then maching out the internal threads of your chosen brake, to just 0.001"-0.002" clearance and then have a break tacked on via tig. (if you cho9se not atempt a rethread...which is really much easier) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
severephitz 0 Posted June 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 They are crooked and I did not pay for the "work" of course... He reamed out the muzzle break and tried to weld it on but I was able to break it off so didn't do a good job there... I have smoothed out the inside of the muzzle break and it now fits right over the barrel back over the threads... which is why I was thinking about having it tig welded all the way around but then it is permanent... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedChallenger 149 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 If you "break" your "brake" it will not function properly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 A seal weld will contract your barrel diameter. A good tig welder should be able to put a 1/8 " tack on top and bottom and it will be good for life. But it has to be fit on STRAIGHT. And check for straightness after welding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rs51085 136 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 here is a how to that is great for chopping and re-threading. http://forum.saiga-1...-with-no-lathe/ it is not that hard with the right tools. the gun is worth a lot considering it is a legal sbs, its worth doing right. a few things to consider, if you were to weld a break on it would fit a lot better and straighter with those threads cut off and then welded to the smooth barrel. also with the weld on option you will not be able to remove the gas block to work on your ports if you ever wanted to with out cutting the break off. if you did weld a break on it, the opportunity to use chokes to tighten up the pattern and create a little more back pressure would be lost. if you re-thread and lose a little more of the barrel you can make the barrel length back up with a choke tube and create a little more back pressure. all of these options depend on your ability and what your willing to try. good luck i hope you get it sorted out the way you want it and i feel your pain that its not going as planned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Just wondering where I can order my 20 dollar suitable for framing certificate so I can be a gunsmith too. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
severephitz 0 Posted June 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Yea well he was at fort bragg and had good things said about him but maybe he was drunk when he got to mine? who knows ... lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Yea well he was at fort bragg and had good things said about him but maybe he was drunk when he got to mine? who knows ... lol Whatever his excuse is, unless he did it for free, I'd say he at the very least owes you a new muzzle break. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
severephitz 0 Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Still no have not made a decision and I don't know any good welders to tig weld this brake on if that is the final decision I was thinking maybe just cut it back to 11.5 and leave it and only run heavy loads... or finding someone to move the gas block back if I can't get a lathe to turn the barrel down... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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