thewanderer 1 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Hello all, I have been lurking here since april when I got my saiga 12 and first of all i would like to thank everyone for the wealth of information here. Without learning from your trials and errors I couldn't have gotten my gun to cycle low brass like all the other cool kids. Anyways, three months and a saiga 7.62 later, and I am getting the itch again. I want to get an underfolder but I can't decide if I want to go the romanian wasr 10/63 route, or get a demilled polish parts kit, a nodak spud reciever, and do a screw build temporarily until i find someone or have the means to rivet it myself. The wasr would only be about 50$ cheaper. What do you think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlenderWizard 12 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 You don't want an underfolder. They look cool, but shoulder like ass 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thewanderer 1 Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) You don't want an underfolder. They look cool, but shoulder like ass The question was "romainian wasr or polish screw build?" not "why don't I want an underfolder?" Folding stocks aren't really built for comfort and the tantal style folders are expensive and hard to find. The underfolder is also more compact. Edited July 16, 2012 by thewanderer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
2ndAmendican 23 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Depends on how fast you want to be out there shooting. If you're not in a rush, I say get a kit and do a screw build if you don't have the means to rivet it. I think in the long run you'll be happier with the one you build yourself. Not to mention the basic fun of building. Also, if you check around on the various AK boards I'm sure you can find someone near you that's equipped to rivet and would help you. Good luck with your decision. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlenderWizard 12 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I responded to your statement "I want an underfolder" If you haven't already, I'd shoot one before you commit to it. The side folders can be made quite comfortable with a cheek riser from amd65tech You don't want an underfolder. They look cool, but shoulder like ass The question was "romainian wasr or polish screw build?" not "why don't I want an underfolder?" Folding stocks aren't really built for comfort and the tantal style folders are expensive and hard to find. The underfolder is also more compact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thewanderer 1 Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I responded to your statement "I want an underfolder" If you haven't already, I'd shoot one before you commit to it. The side folders can be made quite comfortable with a cheek riser from amd65tech You don't want an underfolder. They look cool, but shoulder like ass The question was "romainian wasr or polish screw build?" not "why don't I want an underfolder?" Folding stocks aren't really built for comfort and the tantal style folders are expensive and hard to find. The underfolder is also more compact. I don't now anyone who has one, but it seems there are alot of people who have them and like them. I was gonna save a wire stock build for if I ever get a 5.45. I mainly just want something more compact. I already weighed the other options. So if you had to choose between a wasr and nodak spud, which would you pick? Right now I'm leaning towards the spud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedChallenger 149 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I believe the Nodak would be the better choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlenderWizard 12 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Have you looked at an AMD 65? I responded to your statement "I want an underfolder" If you haven't already, I'd shoot one before you commit to it. The side folders can be made quite comfortable with a cheek riser from amd65tech You don't want an underfolder. They look cool, but shoulder like ass The question was "romainian wasr or polish screw build?" not "why don't I want an underfolder?" Folding stocks aren't really built for comfort and the tantal style folders are expensive and hard to find. The underfolder is also more compact. I don't now anyone who has one, but it seems there are alot of people who have them and like them. I was gonna save a wire stock build for if I ever get a 5.45. I mainly just want something more compact. I already weighed the other options. So if you had to choose between a wasr and nodak spud, which would you pick? Right now I'm leaning towards the spud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thewanderer 1 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Yeah the AMD 65 is cool. But if I got that I would want to put a quadrail and get some cool sights or a lazer and a better grip and I will end up spending way more than I am trying to spend right now. And I want a more classic looking ak and the screw build seems like an interesting project. I guess the real reason i asked this question was because I just wanted to know if there was any major differances between a Bulgarian or a Polish ak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Nothing wrong with a UF, I built a bastard AK and a S-410 for the wife, both with UF stocks. Folded the UF makes a 'long pistol' and is a lot easier to handle than a side folded stock. The side folders do make a nicer stock when unfolded, the UF needs a but pad and there is NO cheek weld. But The wife has back problems and cannot shoot from the shoulder. With the UF's they are perfect for her, and also usable as a shoulder fired weapon for others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FunkedOut 91 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 The polish kits are cheap by today's standards when you compare the other parts kits and their prices. Polish AKs are sweet. Great machining and assembly. The parts kit should have all the holes drilled in the right place. You'll end up with a top quality piece if you do your part. I'll add this, get a polish 80% blank and build it on that if you can. You'll need to know how to drill holes, spot weld rails/plate and heat treat. If you can't, look into it real hard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thewanderer 1 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I think you only have to drill some holes for the front trunnion on the nodak receiver vs a blank although that would be cheaper. Now I'm really thinking about the AMD cause of this bug in my ear. I just cant imagine that wire stock being that much better. Are they considered a short barrel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FunkedOut 91 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Yes. The original barrels are less than 16" but you can make a 16" barrel work or perm attach an extension/brake/fake can. There's a lot more to a blank than the number of holes. It's not cheaper if you have to buy all the bits, reamers, spot welder, tongs, plus however you choose to go about heat treating. If you're only gonna build one, nodak is the way, hands down. Betcha can't build just one... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlenderWizard 12 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 http://centerfiresystems.com/AKAGUN-AMD.aspx You cannot hardly get a matching numbers kit with original barrel for that price, much less the receiver, build, and refinish I plan to SBR mine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thewanderer 1 Posted July 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) http://centerfiresys...AKAGUN-AMD.aspx You cannot hardly get a matching numbers kit with original barrel for that price, much less the receiver, build, and refinish I plan to SBR mine You are quite persuasive I've been thinking about the AMD alot now. Now my question is does the stock stay in place when folded or does it swing around? Edited July 18, 2012 by thewanderer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlenderWizard 12 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 It locks open and locks closed If you get one, make sure to get a riser from amd65tech.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thewanderer 1 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Well i guess that settles it. It's not often I change my mind about these things but I can't deny the value. Plus the AMD looks mean as hell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thewanderer 1 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) I have the AMD now, but i think I'm still gonna order a kit , I need something in 5.45 now. Edited August 19, 2012 by thewanderer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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