SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) Hello all, nice forum you have here. I just picked me up a 1919 at the local gun show and I noticed that after the 1919 marking on the upper reciever that there is a ( XN ). I have never seen this on any of the other 1919's before and cant seem to find any information on it either. Does anyone know what the XN may stand for? thanks- Happy Shooting Edited January 26, 2013 by SHOTGUN MESIAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis 38 Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 The XN designation is the latest and greatest upgraded version from Turkey. These are the newest being imported from Turkey, and all guns from here on will be this designation. There are several internal design changes that make many parts incompatible with this newer version. If you choose to have custom work done to your gun , or if you order aftermarket parts, be sure to let whoever you are purchasing from know that you have the XN designated gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted January 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 any info on what the latest greatest changes are??? thanks- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flatland Shooter 22 Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) Is the problem with interchangeable parts a problem for only the "latest and greatest" version of the MKA 1919 that has "XN" on the side, or does the slightly earlier guns with no "XN" on the side but an "XN" at the end of the serial number also have problems? I notice that your gun has the enlarged mag release button. Did it come like that or did you add it? Bill I just picked me up a 1919 at the local gun show Edited January 26, 2013 by Flatland Shooter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted January 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) just installed that today. $13.00, great upgrade. too bad it is not made of metal though. Edited January 26, 2013 by SHOTGUN MESIAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted January 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Someone mentioned that the triggers on the older version were plastic. This is a metal trigger on the" XN", maybe that was one of the upgrades. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flatland Shooter 22 Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Someone mentioned that the triggers on the older version were plastic.This is a metal trigger on the" XN", maybe that was one of the upgrades. That would definitely be an upgrade, as is the larger mag button. Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Hmmm......XN, like Eksen Arms? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis 38 Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 just installed that today. $13.00, great upgrade. too bad it is not made of metal though. If that's a Firebird button, it's machined from aluminum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted January 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) I think your right. Hard to tell sometimes on the smaller pieces. One other thing I noticed about this newer version is that the mags take both 2 3/4" & 3" inch shells. The older version had a seperate one for each size. So this is a nice upgrade as well. I am seriously lovin this shotgun. Edited January 26, 2013 by SHOTGUN MESIAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HDDP 18 Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Hmmm......XN, like Eksen Arms? Yes Sir, like Eksen Arms; Unal, Ahmet ahmetunal@xnarms.com Eksen Silah Ltd Sti DEGOL CAD3/6 TANDOgAN Ankara, tr 063440 Turkey +90.3122122840 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
s4pat 2 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 i received the old version from CTD. Should i try to find a new version and sell the old version? I have yet to shoot the one i received. Which one will i have the best chance of making 922r compliant i guess is the big question if there are significant differences in the two versions.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 i received the old version from CTD. Should i try to find a new version and sell the old version? I have yet to shoot the one i received. Which one will i have the best chance of making 922r compliant i guess is the big question if there are significant differences in the two versions.... Both require the same count for compliance, no issues with early guns, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
s4pat 2 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 i received the old version from CTD. Should i try to find a new version and sell the old version? I have yet to shoot the one i received. Which one will i have the best chance of making 922r compliant i guess is the big question if there are significant differences in the two versions.... Both require the same count for compliance, no issues with early guns, i was thinking difference in internals (trigger assembly, etc) and future availability. if upgrades would be the same across both versions then there wouldnt be an issue. i hope that is the case. thank you, sir, for the quick reply. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) so, if I never slap a 10 round clip in my stock 1919, I do not have to worry about the 922r stuff...... correct? Edited January 27, 2013 by SHOTGUN MESIAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KIRCH76 12 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) so, if I never slap a 10 round clip in my stock 1919, I do not have to worry about the 922r stuff...... correct? If you don't cut the buttstock off or own/use a 10 round mag you won't have to worry about 922r compliance Edited January 27, 2013 by KIRCH76 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cad_man 4 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Pages 9-12 list the characteristics that make imported shotguns not suitable or readily adaptable to sporting purposes, and require the 922r compliancy. Ok, having trouble uploading the pdf file. I'll copy the text and post. Edited January 27, 2013 by cad_man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cad_man 4 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Instead, here is a link: http://www.atf.gov/firearms/industry/july-2012-importability-of-certain-shotguns.pdf A couple amendments to the previous study was the removal of integrated rails on the side and bottom of the receiver/barrel and forward pistol grips making certain shotguns not suitable or readily adaptable to sporting purposes. They are gtg as far as the ATF is concerned. Edited January 27, 2013 by cad_man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) ok, what if a guy couples 2- 5 rounders together, would this be considered as 1-10 rnd mag or 2 seperate 5 rnd mags? Edited January 27, 2013 by SHOTGUN MESIAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Haycock 9 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 when you say couple do you mean side by side? or on top of each other so you dont have to change mags to shoot 10 rounds? if they are coupled side by side i would think that would be ok but if they are some how coupled on top of each other so you can shoot 10 with out a mag change that would be a 10 round mag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) yeah, I meant side by side, that way I could still get my 10 with just a quick change in the middle. Is there a company that makes a coupleing kit for theses mags ? thanks- Edited January 27, 2013 by SHOTGUN MESIAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Haycock 9 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 yea, i believe salem6 and firebird make them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cletusthepipeman 1 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 I just noticed I have two Xn versions. I had trouble with lining up the stock adapter from Tromix for some reason(threads would not line up). The cut came out perfect just had to lower the adapter on the stock about 1/16. Also while installing the pistol grip adapter the back part of the trigger assmebly rubs on the top part of the pistol grip adapter. I removed some metal from both parts and made it work. Are these prblems with me or the newer version XN? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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