Saiga 12K Safety in Folding Stock

[fvf 0]

What do you think of this safety feature that prevents the firing of the Saiga 12K when the stock is folded?

 

Does anyone know of a mod that will remove this safety feature, allowing the 12K to fire even with the stock folded?

 

Thanks

[dodgeturbointerceptor 1]

Youd have to find someone with an actual S-12C or that put an AK-100 folder on theirs before an answer could be had......

 

[AegisDei 2]

I didn't realize that there was a safety that engaged when the stock was folded...mine still goes boom with the stock folded, but mine's a US-imitation S12k

[shooter2 5]

Youd have to find someone with an actual S-12C or that put an AK-100 folder on theirs before an answer could be had......

 

I don't think it has anything to do with the stock itself, since the AK-74M and AK-100 Series rifles have the same stock but can fire with it closed. I don't think the Saiga-12S (the LE gun imported during the AWB years) has such a cutoff, either - at least, nobody who has one has ever mentioned it here.

[pedal2alloy 206]

The switch that prevents it from firing when folded is in the mind of the user. It is called "fear."

 

(This is a joke by the way - I don't know how it works)

[fvf 0]

Here in the Philippines, the Saiga model that a dealer is selling is the 12K model. It has an 18 inch barrel, pistol grip, rifle sights and a folding stock. When the stock is folded the shotgun cannot be put off safe. Also when the safety is on fire position, the stock cannot be folded. I have read that this safety feature on the 12K model was to satisfy a domestic requirement. But here it is not required and I am looking for a way to remove it. I have to yet receive my ordered 12K model, probably is 2 months time for firearm processing over here.

 

Also it has the sight attachment on the left side of the receiver.

[dodgeturbointerceptor 1]

yep...

 

Saiga-12K

Saiga-12C

 

have safety mechanism in AK-100 Folder

[G O B 3,516]

The safety on the folder is for a Russian gun controll law. (same as the 'step' in the chamber of the X-38).

Shouldn't be too hard to figure out after you have the weapon in hand and tear it down for it's "virgin" bath.

 

G O B

[fvf 0]

Ok thanks. Will post after I get the 12K in about 2 months.

 

BTW How many spare magazines would be practical to keep since they are made of plastic and is the primary feed device for the Saiga?

[MadDog 3]

As many as you can get... They are hard to come by in the States at the moment!

 

Really I like to have at least 10 mags for each weapon (or more)

[1liter 20]

Did I just hear of an importer from the Phillipines? Are Saiga 12 mags easy ( and most importantly cheap ) to come by there?

[acetomatoco 0]

Here is some info on the Saiga 12 ga from the Izhmash site.

http://www.izhmash.ru/eng/product/saiga12.shtml

[fvf 0]

Actually someone from England already emailed me if it was possible for me to get him some 8-round Saiga 12 magazines.

 

I will inquire with the local dealer here if it is allowed to ship firearm accessories abroad.

 

Will let you know as soon as I have discussed this with my Saiga dealer.

 

The 8-round mags cost about $109 each. Really expensive if you consider that an ordinary semi or pump shotgun has a fixed magazine tube.

[Kevin_m4 0]

I have a 12C and it has no lock out to prevent firing in the folded position. I think the European models are required by law to have that feature (lock out)

 

Shooting it folded tends to hurt the wrist after a mag or two.

 

[fvf 0]

Actually I believe firing it with the stock folded would put stress on the pistol grip wrist. But at least the manual of arms is simplier w/ only the side safety as a basis for firearm status. As it is now you have to consider the stock and the side safety as 2 elements to consider.

 

BTW does your 12C have a threaded barrel tip w/ a metal piece on the end. Unlike regular chokes the barrel of a 12K is threaded on the outside.