turbobuick 3 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Just Installed a $39.95 Tactical Breacher Choke purchased from Centerfiresystems.com My concern is the body of the breacher does not seat flush with the end of the barrel. Its a newer version (XN) Check pic below & please chime in Thanks in Advance FRED Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flatland Shooter 22 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Doesn't look quite right, does it? But maybe that is how it is designed to fit. I have not tried this choke and I do not have the XN model. For my earlier model I purchased Carlson extended chokes with the WinChoke thread and they fit just fine. Have you compared it to the chokes that came with the gun? Bill 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Syndicate 812 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 No man that's not right, I have the same choke and it is nice and flush, every time I've seen that choke installed on an MKA, it's been nice and flush, or the tiniest gap. Well I'm not saying it's not right 100% for sure, but from what I've seen that is quirky. Hopefully Jim or one of the MKA builders sees this and maybe can answer to it for sure or have seen that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
compshootfl 40 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Houston...We have a problem. I hope all the new XN owners, take a minute to make sure all the accessory parts they order, will in fact work. I also hope that these manufacturers that produce these parts will try to catch up and let everyone know if certain parts will not work for the XN models... seems some do and some don't. Good info I'm sure will be posted here as things progress. Obviously yours doesn't look right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis 38 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Just look in the barrel, if there's no gap between the base of the choke and the bore you're ok. It may just be a shallow choke bore. If there is a gap I would chase the threads with a choke tap and ensure the base of the choke seats firmly at the end of the bore. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Houston...We have a problem. I hope all the new XN owners, take a minute to make sure all the accessory parts they order, will in fact work. I also hope that these manufacturers that produce these parts will try to catch up and let everyone know if certain parts will not work for the XN models... seems some do and some don't. Good info I'm sure will be posted here as things progress. Obviously yours doesn't look right. Unfortunately , there are some slight variations between guns EVEN on the same model , not to mention the non XN and XN , differences. Overall the QC is getting better, but occasionally we get a ,for example, We got a BRAND NEW XN, the other day the hammer looked like it was made with a hammer and an angle grinder, the critical area's were fine, but the rest was ROUGH, to say the least. It SURE keeps it interesting, making parts. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Syndicate 812 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Houston...We have a problem. I hope all the new XN owners, take a minute to make sure all the accessory parts they order, will in fact work. I also hope that these manufacturers that produce these parts will try to catch up and let everyone know if certain parts will not work for the XN models... seems some do and some don't. Good info I'm sure will be posted here as things progress. Obviously yours doesn't look right. Unfortunately , there are some slight variations between guns EVEN on the same model , not to mention the non XN and XN , differences. Overall the QC is getting better, but occasionally we get a ,for example, We got a BRAND NEW XN, the other day the hammer looked like it was made with a hammer and an angle grinder, the critical area's were fine, but the rest was ROUGH, to say the least. It SURE keeps it interesting, making parts. I worked on a friends and encountered the same thing, we redid his FCG, but got a new stock one to save, and sent the bad one in as a courtesy. It was fucked up to say the least. Oh and Tooth, thanks for the stupid fast reply to my email the other night about the stock adapter! Much appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbobuick 3 Posted April 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Just Installed a $39.95 Tactical Breacher Choke purchased from Centerfiresystems.comMy concern is the body of the breacher does not seat flush with the end of the barrel. Its a newer version (XN) Check pic below & please chime in Thanks in Advance FRED100_0340.jpg Bill @ centerfire is sending me another one The orginal chokes that come w/the the gun sit just below the surface of the end of the barrel,hopefully the next one sent corrects this I'll keep u posted 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HassoBoxhead 0 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Looks likes simple mix up between the WIN version of that choke (that fits) and the REM or other version...I have the same choke and it fits perfectly flush. What is written on the side of the choke? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbobuick 3 Posted April 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Looks likes simple mix up between the WIN version of that choke (that fits) and the REM or other version...I have the same choke and it fits perfectly flush. What is written on the side of the choke? Says" MKA-1919 Measurement from where the breach starts to the end of the choke is: 1 17/32" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HassoBoxhead 0 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Something is amiss then, I checked the Centerfiresystems site and the choke is the same as I have configuration wise...sorry i can't be more help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cw_mi 1 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 Just looked at mine and it fits the same as Freds. Also an XN model. Looks like I'll be contacting Bill in the morning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.BlahX3 12 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 I have the same gap using the Cadiz MKA to Saiga muzzle adapter. There is a gap between the Saiga muzzle brake and the end of the barrel. I just figured I needed a muzzle nut. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
idahodan 2 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 is the "GAP" a problem??? or cosmetic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 is the "GAP" a problem??? or cosmetic cosmetic , the problem comes if it doesn't seat inside the barrel , if there is a gap there , you WILL have problems Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbobuick 3 Posted April 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Got another Tactical Choke(same one) from Centerfire & looks like the gap has closed up some, now we are down to 1/8", is that normal??? Here's the new pic. PS. I called Clyde @ RAAC & explained and he said he has another barrel to send me (also when purshased there was a slight factory blemish @ end of barrel) The 2 pics are now, my 1st post w/pic was before FRED Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis 38 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Did you check the inside of the bore to see if it was flush inside like I mentioned earlier? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeremyT 15 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 If the threads are flush on the inside I wouldn't worry about it. Unless she is just a beauty queen that sits in the safe until someone comes over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbobuick 3 Posted April 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Did you check the inside of the bore to see if it was flush inside like I mentioned earlier? There's a gap after hand tightening the tactical breacher choke inside the barrel, approx 1/16 to 1/8" please advise FRED Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis 38 Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 I shall refer you to my earlier post, chase the threads. Just look in the barrel, if there's no gap between the base of the choke and the bore you're ok. It may just be a shallow choke bore. If there is a gap I would chase the threads with a choke tap and ensure the base of the choke seats firmly at the end of the bore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbobuick 3 Posted April 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) I shall refer you to my earlier post, chase the threads. Just look in the barrel, if there's no gap between the base of the choke and the bore you're ok. It may just be a shallow choke bore. If there is a gap I would chase the threads with a choke tap and ensure the base of the choke seats firmly at the end of the bore. Thank You, I feel know looking at your post it all makes sense-now I have to go on the hunt for a choke tap That being said, I guess this would be more of a job for a gunsmith??? FRED Edited April 18, 2013 by turbobuick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbobuick 3 Posted April 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 One last question, since the Tactical Breacher Choke has an internal gap when seated as far is it will go (hand-tighten) 1/16-1/8", does the choke itself need more threads (top or bottom?) or the inside of the barrel need more threads??? Thanks FRED ( a newbee) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeremyT 15 Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 The way it sounds to me is that you need a choke with a longer "non-threaded" space at the bottom to fill the gap. Or like mentioned above maybe the threads needs cleaned out with a tap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Madwand 2 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 Funny, that choke looks exactly like a Trulock. Tactical The Trulock Tactical Choke was designed to produce optimum performance with breaching rounds, buckshot and rifled slugs. This eliminates the need to change muzzle devices when alternating ammunition from breaching rounds to buckshot or rifled slugs. The crenulated muzzle ensures positive grip when used as a standoff tool. More than just a breaching tool, this new design goes beyond a single purpose. The Trulock Tactical Choke produces improved downrange accuracy and performance for buckshot or rifled slug applications. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Syndicate 812 Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 Funny, that choke looks exactly like a Trulock. Tactical The Trulock Tactical Choke was designed to produce optimum performance with breaching rounds, buckshot and rifled slugs. This eliminates the need to change muzzle devices when alternating ammunition from breaching rounds to buckshot or rifled slugs. The crenulated muzzle ensures positive grip when used as a standoff tool. More than just a breaching tool, this new design goes beyond a single purpose. The Trulock Tactical Choke produces improved downrange accuracy and performance for buckshot or rifled slug applications. Ya there's a few copies and a few places that sell copies as trulocks... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12elentless 1 Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 Can someone link me to the one I need for my mka? Don't wanna buy the wrong one. $40 sounds nice. Tia Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duggr 13 Posted May 8, 2013 Report Share Posted May 8, 2013 http://www.saigastock.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=43&products_id=269&zenid=207ce6efdf75e8f8efbc9bf95e8b35da Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Shipping next week, Black or Bright , it is ALSO a Modified Choke , most others are cyl bore. $45.00 ETA: This was our prototype FRESH off the mill. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duggr 13 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 Shipping next week, Black or Bright , it is ALSO a Modified Choke , most others are cyl bore. $45.00 I Like IT!!! Cool!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12elentless 1 Posted May 9, 2013 Report Share Posted May 9, 2013 T&n will that fit a xn? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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